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The 2013+ Fusion, MkZ and CMax Hybrids now have 0w-20 as the recommended motor oil with 5w-20 also being approved for use.

Evidently 0w-20 is the factory fill oil and provides up to 4% better fuel economy, the change notice hit in Q1/2016 and it's now on the Motorcraft Oil/Filter charts at the dealers.

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Yep, been running 0W-20 in my 2013 for a while, as well as in my wife's 2014.

 

See this post from the pinned thread on oil changes:

 

I think this was debated earlier in this same thread, and the below was noted in Ford's system to provide info to dealers:

 

SSM 44509 - 2013 - 2014 C-Max, Fusion and MKZ Hybrid/Energi - Oil Viscosity Specification For 2014 C-Max, Fusion and MKZ Hybrid/Energi, SAE 0W-20 is the initial fill oiland the recommended service oil. The oil viscosity recommendation of SAE 5W-20 on the oil fill caps on some 2014 Fusion and MKZ Hybrid/Energi vehicles may appear to conflict with the owner guide and other service publications which recommend SAE 0W-20 oil. Both SAE 0W-20 oil and SAE 5W-20 oil are approved for use in these vehicles. 2013 C-Max, Fusion and MKZ Hybrid/Energi can also be serviced with either SAE 0W-20 oil and SAE 5W-20 oil.

http://fordfusionhybridforum.com/topic/5886-oil-change-info-for-2013-hybridenergi

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Looked at my receipts (local Ford dealer) and its still 5W-20 as of July. But this applies to 2013-2014 (we have a 2014). Newer Fusions probably have specified 0W-20 since manufactured.

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I'm not buying the "4%" difference. Maybe "up to", but 0% is up to 4%, so yeah. At 100° C, the 0W-20 and 5W-20 are both 20 viscosity. And at say 50° C, the 0W-20 is (guessing) an 8 viscosity and the 5W-20 is maybe a 10 viscosity. (guessing, I'll bet viscosity change isn't linear).

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I found this topic via the search function. I'm trying to determine why the new dealer I went to last week used Synthetic Oil. All the previous Ford dealers I have used have put in Semi-Synthetic MotorCraft SAW 0W-20. My owners manual does not state anything about Synthetic oil. I'm going to put a sticker on the facia cover near the oil cap to not use Synthetic oil.

 

I was charged $68 for "The Works" service which I've had done for nearly 4 years on both my FFH and Escape at dealers, for always right around $40.

 

Do the newer FFH perhaps 'require' full synthetic?

Edited by usererror

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I found this topic via the search function. I'm trying to determine why the new dealer I went to last week used Synthetic Oil. All the previous Ford dealers I have used have put in Semi-Synthetic MotorCraft SAW 0W-20. My owners manual does not state anything about Synthetic oil. I'm going to put a sticker on the facia cover near the oil cap to not use Synthetic oil.

 

I was charged $68 for "The Works" service which I've had done for nearly 4 years on both my FFH and Escape at dealers, for always right around $40.

 

Do the newer FFH perhaps 'require' full synthetic?

I think 0W-20 is full synthetic and 5W-20 is semi-synthetic.

 

 

The 2015 owners manual states this:

You can use 5W-20 oil if 0W-20 oil is not available.

 

I have always used 5W-20 in my 2015 FFH and choose to change it more frequently than is commonly done with 0W-20 (full synthetic).

Edited by Texasota

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My dealer uses 0W-20 Synthetic Blend.

 

I am back at this, I printed off the spec sheet for the 0w-20 oil and it says it is a synthetic blend, not full synthetic according to the Ford Part number. I'm bringing it with my $40 invoice and my $70 invoice to my dealer. If they want to charge me $40 again for the oil change I guess I'm going back to do it them myself. Another dealer I called for a 2nd opinion said that Ford keeps changing their price for the synthetic oil. Not sure I buy that completely, my former dealer always charged $39.95 for oil change and tire rotation.

 

I may try to calculate the cost / mile of 0w-20 vs 5w-20 if I have the dealer use that instead. Who knows maybe I am getting a better deal if 0w-20 lasts longer between oil changes.

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I was told that the Motorcraft SAE 0-20 Synthetic Blend oil recommended for 2019 Fusion SE Hybrid has been discontinued. Is that true? What do I replace it with?

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