Compact spare tire for 2016 Fusion Hybrid P225 50 R16

[Marksclu]

ideas on buying compact wheel and tire for above Fusion Hybrid

[corncobs]

I'm pretty confident that following link to the spare tire topic is going to answer all your questions.

 

fordfusionhybridforum.com/topic/6163-spare-tire-for-fusion-hybrid/

 

It's a few page long so enjoy reading :)

 

Edit: sorry it doesn't seem to recognize the link as link

Edited August 15, 2015 by corncobs

[Hybrider]

Let me help you out CC. :)

 

http://fordfusionhybridforum.com/topic/6163-spare-tire-for-fusion-hybrid/

[corncobs]

Let me help you out CC. :)

 

http://fordfusionhybridforum.com/topic/6163-spare-tire-for-fusion-hybrid/

Thank you!

[Cobra348]

I set up a 16" donut spare in my '15 FFH. Just keep the mobility kit in your garage or something. Only piece you can keep from that is the hold-down bolt as you can use it to fasten the donut in place. This is the thread I used for the parts ... first message, use the Invoice Part # when you approach the dealer for them. Get the tread from TireRack.

 

Orrrr as some others have done, go to a junkyard and see if you can find the pieces from a '13 gas model Fusion, as they should work as well.

 

Good luck!

[hermans]

Actually the spare from a '13-'16 year gas Fusion will work.

[HybridDragon]

Actually the spare from a '13-'16 year gas Fusion will work.

 

Not that I doubt your sincerity or insights, but

 

Up here in Canada, we always get something a little different, eh?

 

Is there anyway to confirm this?

I just bought the spare wheel and jack kit combo from a local auto yard for my 2015 FFH Ti with standard 17" wheels

all parts are brand new unused

they provided it with the VIN of the wreck

the VIN checks out as a 2014 Ford Fusion SE

but the spare wheel is stamped with a different number than that in the main spare tire threads here on the forum

 

my wheel is stamped CM5C1015CXA (I don't see any additional numbers like that on the steel wheel)

I can only find one positive (i.e. they are the same) crossreference to the Ford part number that is recommended CV6Z1015B

and that was on eBay

 

I cannot find my part number anywhere on Ford sites (or anywhere else for that matter)

 

Just wondering before I go through the exercise of dropping a back wheel and trying it on for size

(probably a good idea regardless)

Or going back to my supplier for a refund/ replacement (30 days)

 

Thanks

[murphy]

CV6Z1015B is the catalog order number.

The number stamped into the wheel is the build part number.

 

It would be best to try it in the comfort of your garage or driveway instead of on the side of a muddy road in the rain when you need it to work.

[Waldo]

I have the CM5C-1015-CXA stamped part and if fits just perfectly on my 2014 FFH Canadian spec car.

[HybridDragon]

Thanks to both of you for your quick replies

 

Sounds like this is none of our first rodeos, so I just finished a trial fit of the wheel on the rear,in the comfort of my dry level driveway.

Fits like a charm, lots of clearance around calipers and rotor shield (that black thin plate behind the rotors).

Hey, isn't that jack a piece of work? Smacked the end of the handle against the door once while twisting and turning and went and immediately found a nice soft rubber tip to put on it.

 

Peace of mind and a road trip down east in a few weeks. Raring to go.

[murphy]

Great! :)

 

The reason I suggested a trial fit is I went through all of that and it didn't fit. I have an FFE instead of an FFH. It apparently has bigger brakes than an FFH and the wheel jammed against the caliper preventing the wheel from turning.

[hybridbear]

I have an FFE instead of an FFH. It apparently has bigger brakes than an FFH and the wheel jammed against the caliper preventing the wheel from turning.

I wonder why this is. If it's just because the Energi is a few hundred pounds heavier?

[murphy]

I wonder why this is. If it's just because the Energi is a few hundred pounds heavier?

According to the "infallible" Google an Energi is 298 pounds heaver than a hybrid. It's not just the front wheels. It doesn't fit on the rear wheels either. One poster said he ground metal off of the caliper of one of his wheel positions (RR I think) so it would fit. I'm not interested in grinding metal off of the part that stops my car.

[hybridbear]

According to the "infallible" Google an Energi is 298 pounds heaver than a hybrid. It's not just the front wheels. It doesn't fit on the rear wheels either. One poster said he ground metal off of the caliper of one of his wheel positions (RR I think) so it would fit. I'm not interested in grinding metal off of the part that stops my car.

The rear friction brakes do the majority of the braking done by the brake pads since the front axle has regen braking.

[Texasota]

The rear friction brakes do the majority of the braking done by the brake pads since the front axle has regen braking.

I'm guessing that would be true during light braking. But anytime you need to stop quickly the front brakes will be doing the majority of the braking.

[Waldo]

The parking brake also has to meet certain regulations related to road inclination and time-to-hold. Weight plays a big part in that. The MKT Limo package has a completely different drum-in-hat parking brake compared to the regular MKT for just that reason.

[hybridbear]

I'm guessing that would be true during light braking. But anytime you need to stop quickly the front brakes will be doing the majority of the braking.

Note especially the underlined part in red below from the Workshop Manual:

Brake Modes

Because much of the brake torque required to stop the vehicle can be achieved through regenerative braking, it is not always necessary for the conventional friction brakes to be applied. The brake pedal uses a pedal feel simulator that acts against a curved bracket to give the driver a simulated pedal resistance as the brake pedal is applied. The ABS module uses the driver input on the brake pedal, wheel speed sensor input and the lateral deceleration messages from the RCM to determine the amount of deceleration the driver is requesting and which brake mode is necessary.

 

Regenerative Braking Mode

The ABS module determines the amount of braking torque necessary and sends that info to the PCM along with the current threshold for ABS intervention. The PCM determines how much braking torque the electric motor can provide based on High Voltage Traction Battery (HVTB) state-of-charge and sends this information back to the ABS module. At the same time, the electric motor is switched to a generator which supplies the determined amount of braking torque. Based on the amount of braking torque the PCM can deliver, the ABS module determines whether it is necessary to apply the friction brakes or if the brake torque from the electric motor is sufficient to safely stop the vehicle.

 

Friction Braking Mode

Under some circumstances, the brake torque generated by the electric motor is insufficient to bring the vehicle to a safe, controlled stop and requires the assistance of the conventional friction brakes. Additionally, the state-of-charge in the High Voltage Traction Battery (HVTB) may not allow for regenerative braking to take place or the vehicle may be experiencing an ABS , stability control event.

 

In these instances, the ABS module activates a mechanical relay which supplies power to a solid state relay that activates a vacuum pump. At the same time, the ABS module sends a PWM voltage to a solenoid mounted on the brake booster. The solenoid allows vacuum from the vacuum pump to enter the brake booster which moves the booster push rod and applies the conventional brakes.

 

During certain braking events, the friction brakes can be applied directly by the driver. The brake booster push rod is equipped with an adjustable stop, once the brake pedal travels far enough to engage the stop, the brake booster push rod is forced into the master cylinder and the conventional friction brakes are applied.

 

Supplemental Braking Assist

In addition to preventing wheel lock up during braking events, the ABS module also provides supplemental hydraulic brake assist through the use of the hydraulic pump motor and the HCU . The ABS module continually monitors the vacuum in the brake booster through the use of a vacuum sensor. When the vacuum sensor indicates vacuum is below a predetermined level during a braking event or if the driver attempts to stop the vehicle with a low vacuum condition in the brake booster, the ABS module activates the hydraulic pump motor in the HCU to assist with vehicle braking.

 

Electronic Brake Force Distribution (EBD)

On initial application of the brake pedal, full pressure is applied to the rear brakes. The ABS module then uses wheel speed sensor inputs to evaluate rear wheel slip. Once the rear wheel slip exceeds a predetermined threshold, the ABS module commands the HCU to close the appropriate isolation valves to hold the rear brake pressure constant while allowing the front brake pressure to build. This creates a balanced braking condition between the front and rear wheels. If the rear wheel slip continues and exceeds a second predetermined threshold, the ABS module commands the HCU to open the dump valves to decrease the rear brake pressure and allow the rear wheels to recover. A slight bump sensation may be felt in the brake pedal when EBD is active.

 

If the ABS is disabled due to a DTC being present in the ABS module, EBD continues to function unless the DTC is for wheel speed sensors or the HCU . When EBD is disabled, the ABS warning indicator, the red brake warning indicator and sliding car icon illuminate.

[Texasota]

Thanks for posting. The only part that addresses the front brakes is:

 

 

Once the rear wheel slip exceeds a predetermined threshold, the ABS module commands the HCU to close the appropriate isolation valves to hold the rear brake pressure constant while allowing the front brake pressure to build.

 

In an emergency/panic stop the front brakes will be doing the majority of the braking (as much as 70%). This is due to the nose diving effect that all cars experience under hard braking. Weight is shifted from the rear axle/tires to the front axle/tires which results in the rear tires being able to provide relatively little braking effect before they begin to skid/slip.

 

But, your original point is true - under light braking the front friction brakes will be used very little assuming the hybrid driver is diligent about maximizing regen braking. If a driver (hybrid or conventional) races up to red lights and then stands on the brakes, then it will not be true. I witnessed lots of that in Florida last winter.

[RMCQ]

Wife hit a pot hole with her 2013 Fusion Hybrid and slit the side wall of her front tire (225-50/R17). Went to change the tire and discovered that it did not have a donut. Since we were only a mile from home decided for the heck of it to see if the donut from my 09 Saturn Aura XR (225-50/R18) would fit. Couldn't believe my luck, not only did the lugs line up and it clear the brakes but the scissor jack seemed like it was made for the Fusion. Drove the car home and then to the shop the next day without any issues. Never thought a spare from a GM would fit a Ford but it did.

[heywardjr]

eBay is your friend here if you want a spare. I just got the kit and it works great.

[FernMTL]

Went to a junk yard. 40$ for a brand new spare tire assembly.

[Texasota]

That is a good price. Did it include the entire kit (i.e. jack, and foam packing block)?

[FernMTL]

Spare and jack. No need for the foam packing. The long screws holds it tight and I add 1/4 inch foam carpet under the spare to prevent noise.

[Texasota]

Spare and jack. No need for the foam packing. The long screws holds it tight and I add 1/4 inch foam carpet under the spare to prevent noise.

That (foam carpet) is a good idea. I might try that and see if it frees up more space for squirreling away misc things I like to store in the wheel well.

[FernMTL]

That (foam carpet) is a good idea. I might try that and see if it frees up more space for squirreling away misc things I like to store in the wheel well.

That's exactly why I set it up that way. It frees room around the tire.