rpreuss

You are right. They give specific components that ARE covered: "high-voltage battery, continuously variable transmission and the DC/DC converter. In addition, the high-voltage battery connector, fan assembly, thermister probe, hybrid battery pack sensor module (HBPSM), and the battery energy control module (BECM) are covered for the Fusion Hybrid" I'm curious if a "high-voltage battery connector" isn't a cable? But to only include certain hybrid components is sneaky. And for jeff_h, what is a "fan assembly"? So, my 2017 Fusion Energi is going on a 3 year lease that should include everything but battery cables. :lol:

I recently had a surprise issue arise with my Fusion Hybrid Warranty. Or lack thereof. While driving my 2010 Fusion Hybrid, the vehicle stalled and I got the dreaded red triangle "Stop Safely Now" warning. Unfortunately, I was already stopped at a light in the middle of a three lane highway. Long story short, the car would not start and I was flat bed towed to the dealer. Ironically, the odometer read 73333.2 miles. After a day, I got a call from the service writer that the High Voltage Battery cable had to be replaced. I was then told that it was not covered by my extended warranty because that Ford ESP Premium Care bumper to bumper warranty excluded batteries and battery cables! I said that had to apply to the 12 V battery and its cables, not this one. Nope, it wasn't covered. A battery cable is a battery cable. Also, there is the Factory Warranty, 8 years/100000 mile for "Hybrid Unique Components". Apparently, the orange High Voltage Battery Cable that goes from the HVB to the engine compartment is not considered by Ford to be a "UNIQUE HYBRID COMPONENT". (Show me one on a regular Fusion!) The cost for the cable is $1104.23!!! For part number 14300 B. And it comes up on their computer as not covered by the warranty because it is a battery cable. In order to replace the cable, the right front seat, complete rear seat, half the carpet, interior trunk panels had to be removed. Also, the AC had to be recovered and recharged after removing the A/C lines to the evaporator for access to the cable. Ironically, the labor charge was only $200.00. Anyway, none of it was covered by the warranty. Has anyone else had the high voltage cable fail and had to pay for it?

Actually, it's not just the hybrids. The manuals for all the Fusions state no towing allowed. It's a different issue with the Escape. There, it is only the hybrid that cannot tow. Most likely for the reasons that lolder stated.

This is from the 2010 FFH Owners Manual 3rd printing page 282. Hope this helps a little. Low and high voltage battery – storage Your vehicle must be started and run for a minimum of 10 minutes once a month in order to maintain the high voltage battery charge. This will maintain the high voltage battery but it is not enough to maintain the low voltage (underhood) battery and additional low voltage (underhood) battery charging may be required after 60 days. If your vehicle is to be stored for 30 days or longer, the low voltage (underhood) battery negative terminal must be disconnected. Failure to do this could damage your vehicle’s batteries.

Ah, those are only the "official" commands. Try saying "I'm hungry" and see what happens. There are more too. :hysterical2:

Have any of you already had the "Black Box" installed? I was wondering 2 things... How did they connect it to the car? (ODB-II plug?) And did they tell you exactly what kind of data they were going to be capturing? My appointment is for next week.

Fog light part is strange, but the DRL's are only supposed to be on when the car is in Drive. I had them turned on by the dealer.

Yesterday, I got a call from Morepace with the same offer. They asked me a few questions to make sure I was keeping the car for a while, and then explained the Black Box, the $150 + $150, and will be sending me the details to participate. I have an appointment in early February at a not-too-local dealership to have the box installed. I have close to 18,000 miles, have never had any problems other than one "reset", and have had the brake re-flash. So, lets keep in touch with this one. We know at least two people that will have the box. Maybe. I too, was told I would meet with a Ford engineer. BTW, this is in New Jersey.

I don't think that is a glitch/bug. It is a "feature" :banghead: . Mine, and I would assume ALL of the Ford Nav systems behave that way. The checkered flag is showing your most recent destination. If you cancel the destination, it goes away. You will note that even though you have the checkered flag showing, there is no route. That was cleared when you "reached your destination."

This works better: http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=OBD-II+P0010

There is a great video demonstration of the installation of the Lockpick system in a 2010 Fusion at this location. They show you how to disassemble the entire head section. Installation video page Hope this link works. May have to use IE rather than Fire Fox.

I have had the reset, and so has my brother. Several people have referred to a TSB but no one has any details. When I reported the reset to my dealer, the TSB had not been created again. Does anyone have details about this TSB? Is there a firmware upgrade? Did it come out after the "Brake software" upgrade? :eek5:

Last time I went, they also pressure tested my fuel cap. Can't wait to see what they do when they open the door on my gas-cap-less 2010 fusion in 4 more years. (They just granted me a 1 year extension for new cars) :headspin:

Made me get out the PDF for my hybrid. Specifically says not to use E85, diesel, methanol, leaded, etc. Only use UNLEADED (caps are theirs) or a max of 10% ethanol. It only says the engine is designed for 87 octane and it is recommened to NOT use anything below 87 if you are in "a high altitude area". I assume non-hybrids have similar warnings. And of course, flex-fuel engines can use E85. But nowhere does it say you can not use an octane higher than 87. Just that it is designed for 87.

Mine was actually installed in Mexico, after the car was built. They did it in a seperate garage. It arrived at the dealership already to go. I just wish it was the 2-way. But it still has pretty good range. Far better than the Integrated Key Fob.