marklally

I have a 2013, I gave up on the navigation system long ago, I have updated it twice, the same errors exist on the updates as the older cards. I feel that if it was ever wrong, it will be forever wrong. Sync it with your phone and use that navigation, or you will be forever pissed. Yes it was 1K blown all to hell. You should be able to buy a phone charger that plugs into the 12V port that will keep you phone charged.

Thanks for posting your observations of the current collision warning system as it compares to the old system. It's very disappointing to hear that Ford did not take this opportunity to improve the false warning frequency; this is a major oversight in my opinion.

Thanks for the info, please keep the observations of your 2017 coming.

A camera may be present in your car as I assume that you have the lane assist feature ? (given that your car is a titanium), but my SE does not have a camera, as I don't have lane assist (but I do have adaptive cruise control). I believe that the camera and the radar have not worked together until the 2017 model year. My understanding is that this is what makes the auto-braking possible. I'm still hoping that some 2017 owners share their experience with the collision alert system.

Good news, I have confirmed that the 2017 Fusion does indeed have auto-braking when equipped with adaptive cruise control, the auto braking works whether the ACC is engaged or not http://www.iihs.org/iihs/ratings/vehicle/v/ford/fusion-4-door-sedan/2017 My current FFH has adaptive cruise and collision warning. This system quite often gives false collision warnings because it detects that I am closing fast on a vehicle that is in front of me, but it does not realize that such vehicle has already turned out of my path; it is quite annoying. I keep the system on because I do realize that one day it may not be a false alarm. My question to the current 2017 owners is : Does the fact that a camera is also a part of the system now (in addition to the radar) , does the new system eliminate or at least reduce the frequency of the collision warning false alarms ???

From your description, it's sounds as if this system has no meaningful (to me) improvement over the system that is in my 2013; if this is the case, I guess I will be waiting a while longer to trade. Thanks for the reply.

I have a 2013 FFH SE that I am seriously considering trading for a 2017 due to the fact that I absolutely loathe "my ford touch". I also really like the fact that they got rid of the conventional shifter ( I always thought it was a huge waste of space) and gave it more storage. I have told myself that my next car would have a true auto-braking system and I thought a first that the 2017 did not have this system available ( I'm still not convinced it does). Ford seems very vague about the capabilities of the auto-brake system on the 2017 Ford Fusion. My questions for those who own a 2017 ( or anyone else who knows for sure), Is the system capable of applying the brakes if the adaptive cruise in not engaged? Is the system capable of bringing the car to a complete stop? What are the known limitations of the system? It seems that in the Ford advertising, auto-braking is treated as just a foot note. Any answers will be appreciated.

Please keep the updates coming.

No, I'm not concerned. The system that I am talking about would require an additional sensor to compliment the radar that the adaptive cruise uses ( a camera most likely). The system would also require a great deal of code, but I'm confident that Ford could develop a good system, considering how well the adaptive cruise works using just the radar.

I did see that I spelled " braking" correctly once and once incorrectly, my bad. My current Fusion has adaptive cruise, and yes, I am very aware that it will brake automatically when cruise control in engaged. It's because of this fact that I know that I want a system that will do this even when the cruise control is not engaged. I was once in a situation when the car applied the brakes quite hard before I was even aware that there was a potential collision (I was distracted by other traffic), It was at that point that I contemplated what might have happened, had I not had the adaptive cruise engaged. This is why I want my next car to have an active auto braking system that is always on. The current collision alert system has only been a distraction to me so far, it has alerted on MANY occasions; only once has it sounded off when there was a potential collision, and I was already aware and in the process of braking; every other time is was detecting a car that was turning out of my path and was not a potential collision at all.

Okay, I see that the good looking front end comes on the S thru Titanium trims, so the Fusion is back in the running for my next car. Ford has seemed to fix the cars biggest flaws also, like "my ford touch" and the real estate stealing gear shifter; I could never understand why car manufactures are still wasting space with these useless objects (unless it's a manual transmission of course). My only two hang up's now is (per the configure tab) the fact that they force you to endure leather seats to get adaptive cruise, for me, this is a deal killer. The only thing that also gives me pause is that the car still does not have auto braking collision avoidance. The adaptive cruise system ( which has been available for four years now) seems to have about 75% of the needed hardware and software to run such a system (i'm guessing a camera will be needed also) it makes me wonder what is taking so long for Ford to come out with this. Ford has already committed to making this standard equipment and Subaru and Mazda have already made it available. Does anyone out there know when Ford will be releasing their own REAL collision braking system?

try this: www.oemautopartsco.com/products/myford-touch-sync-2-to-sync-3-upgrade I looked at this, if included a whole new center stack with tactile buttons and a intuitive HVAC control layout, I would buy it. At 2k, it's too pricey for me to just upgrade to sync 3. As far as the new 2017 front end. I like the headlights ( as long as they incorporate some LED driving lights). The main grill shape is okay ( current version is better) but the egg crate design looks very cheep, and you can see the radiator. The lower part really turns me off, the oversized fog light bezels look very cheesy, the grill opening between the fog lights is the biggest mistake in my opinion.

I was strongly considering trading in my 2013 because of my utter distain for my ford touch ( I normally keep a vehicle until the wheels fall off), but I am very disappointed by the new front end, what where they thinking ?

I'm pretty sure the HVB uses cabin air to cool, so nothing in the trunk should interfere.

Install the sway bar ASAP, it's a night and day transformation.