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Just an update, I was having the battery saver message almost everytime the car was driven regardless of time and mileage. Since January when the car completley failed to start becouse it had another issue. That issue required them to reprogram both the body control module and the radio. ( you can read about that in the thread about ford ruining wife's birthday) I have not had the BS message since those 2 things were done. Maybe there is something to one or both of those procedures, relating to the message.

Barsoom, iam the original poster for this thread and i still have this problem daily. It has been in and had the cold weather charging tsb seemed to work at first but it didnt last long and may have been more wishful thinking on my part than anything. I also have a short daily commute at 4.8 miles and i do think this has something to do with it, however with that being said i can do a 15-20 mile trip and still have the bs message. Seems to me that has become something i have just learned to live with ;( I have an appointment this week for some other work yet again, maybe i will have this looked at again as well. Good luck the new Ford reps here are extremely helpful and really can get things done.

My car had to be towed to the dealer and pushed in the shop.

B 13-04-04 2013 Fusion/ MKZ Remote Keyless Entry Functions Inoperative No Crank After Remote Start Event DTC P1595 Built On Or Before 3/12/2013 Some 2013 Fusion and MKZ vehicles built on or before 3/12/2013 may exhibit a concern where all remote keyless entry (RKE) functions are inoperative from both remote controls and/ or the vehicle may exhibit a no crank condition after a remote start event. Diagnostic trouble code (DTC) P1595 may also be present in the powertrain control module (PCM). This concern may be present on vehicles with intelligent access keys (push button start) and integrated key head transmitters (traditional key start). Follow the service procedure in this TSB to reprogram the radio transceiver module (RTM) and the body control module (BCM) to the latest calibration using IDS release 84.01 and higher

Ashley, i would like to thank you for your involvement in this matter. Mod if you would like to lock this thread as it seems to be taking off in a bunch of different directions it is fine by me. Thanks again guys for all your help and support.

Hermans that does not seem to be the case for me, i get the bs message almost everyday 2 times a day more so when its colder out than when it is warm. My windows maybe fine for weeks and then i will loose one of them usually the passenger or the drivers side, but ocassionaly one of the rears also. Thx Jeff

Just picked the car up from the dealer, here is what I got. Ck vehicle, no start pushed in, ck battery ok, ck oasis and tsbs, retrieved code P1595 with Tsb associated 13-04-04 Reprogramed RTM and BCM cleared codes rechecked ok, needs drive cycle to complete repair, customer to drive. So it looks as they reprogrammed the Radio and the Body control module. Time will tell, but my love of the car is quickly fading. It still needs to go back for the Fuel fill door that wont open again! The rattling in the passenger side door. The rattle in the dome light area. The loss of one touch window controls at random The battery saver message again after the tsb that was already done for that! Seems like a lot of issues for a car thats 10 months old and has 6200 miles on it. Thanks to everyone for your help. I guess the worst of it is my wife had her bday cut short and we are out $350 worth of tickets for the 4 of us. Oh by the way thx again Ford........ :(

Ashley, PM sent thank you

Thx guys, it was towed to the dealer lastnight. Going to get over there first thing this morning and let the service dept know exactly what happened. I will keep you posted on the outcome. Thx again

Mod please delete dupe post, sorry

Took the wife and kids out for dinner tonight, car drove fine from the house to the restaurant. In the reasturant about an hour, tried to remote start the car from in the building and got no start beeps from the remote but didnt think much of it at the time. We all got loaded in the car and went to start it and got nothing but a check engine light the car would not start. Collision system not working light came on and check engine light stayed on, but no ready to drive light. So needless to say we spent an hour waiting for the tow company and then had to get someone to come pick us up, the tickets i had purchased for an event months ago went to wast becouse we missed the start and had no way to get there or home. I have owned Mazdas since 2003 and never once did either of them quit on me never mind having to go into the shop 5 or 6 times in the first year of ownership. The ford currently has 6236 miles on it, there should be no issues. Thanks Ford........what a joke. Unhappy customer

I thought i remember someone having an issue with there sunglass holder rattling, but i can't seem to find the thread. Mine seems to get worse every day, just the weight of my hand placed on it seems to stop it from happening. But I wanted to know if anyone else had this issue?

Acdii, i have a very similar thing happening with my FFH also. I was computing that my mileage was around the same as your around 37 however it is taking more gas in when filling, than what the trip meter says has been used. Im in Ma. and the cold weather started here about Nov. and it seems so did this problem. I think it is an issue with the cold, winterblend gas/ethanol and expansion in the tank. It seems much worse this year in the cold than last year since the "better fuel mileage PCM update in the summer". I also believe there is still an issue with my car running cold, my commute is only 4.8 miles on a cold day i will remote start to let the car warm up in the driveway for 10 to 15 minutes and then drive to work outside temps ranging from 40-25 f by the time i get to work I'm just getting into the first line of normal temp on the gauge.

Eddie sorry you are such an angry individual, but not everyone's circumstance's are the same as yours. It's a big world out there and things are different in other locations other than yours. I did buy a hybrid to save fuel, this you are correct. But since there are approx 12 gas stations in a 1 mile radius on my way to work they all have the exact same price no matter if they pump it or I do. Last i checked i didnt need to be handicaped to have someone pump my gas. But I did look at that i was keeping someone employed and even if i spent a whole 30 cents more for a full tank of gas (given a 3 cent per gallon dif. on a 10 gallon tank fill up) to help keep someone employed i certainly would and it would be my choice to do so. Maybe if you have nothing too contribute to a post you should refrain from your angry nature to insult people and call them lazy. IraF, going to give your fix a try since my dealers adjustment didnt last more than 1 fill and the door stopped working properly again. Thanks for the possible solution.....much appreciated.

So far i have only had to open one time since this has happened, i only fill about once per month so im lucky. But yes the key fits between the lid and the body and i can just lift it enough to get my finger on it and open it. Nothing really locks it in place and honestly i cant get why it doesn't work. The little button thing pushes in and out like it is supposed to and sometimes if i push the lid on the opposite side i can get it to open, which makes no sense. Still havent called the dealer becouse everything seems to be an all day event with them. But before my next fill i will i don't want to take a chance on scratching/chipping the paint. The worst part was i looked like an ass, when i got out of the car to show the attendant all he had to do was push in the lid and it springs open and whala it did nothing.

Eddie look in the tech area for 13-5-28 reprogram FCM

Eddie i just went out and gave this a try to confirm the info im giving you is correct in my case for my car. That is all i have to go by. So i start the car and i hit auto the temp is set at 70 (outside temp here is about 80 so its warm in the cabin) the system starts with the ac on not max ac, i watch the kw climate bar which is about 3 1/2 segments up the range. When I hit the ac button and the light goes out the kw climate bar drops down to the first half of the first segment. I should also add that i have had the TSB for the fan coming on full blast when using remote start, not that it has much to do with it, but it seems you guys get max Ac on and i have not had that happen since i got that tsb

Eddie you originally asked if if the MFT update fixed the climate issue, which it did not. I have had no further issues with my ac since the 13b07 update, when i used to hit the ac button to turn it off the kw climate usage stayed right where it was even though the light on the dash went out. Now when I turn on the climate system an the ac comes on when turn it off the kw climate power drops to almost the bottom of the meter, my guess is the small amount of power showing has to do with the fan still running to move cabin air around. Also and maybe someone else can confirm this, there is a patch for the original13b07 update maybe that was a change that was made in the software for the climate control. I cant confirm this because i did not get the original patch. All i know is that currently when I press off on the ac and the light goes out the compressor shuts off.

Push the fill door and it doesn't pop forward, no matter how hard you press it. Open it by hand and the button inside seems to work. My guess is some how its not pushing it in enough. Yet another trip back to the dealer.

Sorry dont see it, looks to me like they took the front end off an old early 2000's mustang and cant see the rest off the car enough to pass judgement.

The PCM update does fix this, 13b07. But the update for MFT has nothing to do with anything other than the MFT system.

The only thing i dislike about this car is having to constantly clean the inside of the windshield. Every week or so i get a film on the windshield. Is this the dash degaussing? if so when will it stop? I have owned the car since March. The worst part is the film, makes the window fog so easy, any slight change in humidity makes the window fog up and it's a mess a night with lights hitting it. I use invisible glass to clean it and it comes out great but only last 7-10 days and needs to be done again. Has anyone else had this issue and have you come up with a solution?

Had the PCM update done today, i spoke to my dealer about the change in update rev. And he told me there software updates daily. So far i have confirmed that I can drive down the road at 75 in EV mode and i also noticed that when i turn climate on and change the fan speed the AC nolonger turns on automatically, finally. Things i have noticed that are different from what others are experiencing I have not lost any numbers, lifetime, settings etc etc. the only thing that seems to be reset after the update is the EV+ locations are not recognized. I did notice that im getting the battery saver message again, which i have not got since i had the fix done a few weeks ago. However this could just be a result of the car being on in battery mode while at the dealer all day and the battery is drained a bit? Not sure.

Copied from Oasis broadcast today. 6477 - Field Service Action 13B07 - Special Instruction Certain 2013 Model Year C-MAX, Fusion, and MKZ Hybrid Vehicles - Fuel Economy Improvement - Powertrain Control Module Calibration. When updating the PCM and SOBDM-C modules as part of FSA 13B07, use IDS R85.05 or R86.01A with the VCM I or the VCM II. Do not use IDS R86.00 or R86.01.

Never really thought about this until i read your post, but I guess I do adjust it every few weeks