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If you could get an Energi Titanium for nothing, would you take it?

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#21 OFFLINE   tr7driver

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Posted 10 September 2014 - 02:45 PM

I'm looking at applying the same logic to a 13 c-max.  Any advice on what to look for, recommended options?









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Posted 11 September 2014 - 08:14 AM

I'm looking at applying the same logic to a 13 c-max.  Any advice on what to look for, recommended options?

My parents love the power liftgate on their C-Max. I wish we had it on the Focus Electric.


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#23 OFFLINE   tr7driver

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Posted 11 September 2014 - 01:15 PM

I guess I should clarify that I'm not looking to trade the Fusion for a C-Max but considering replacing my old truck with one.  So far the best deal I've found on a 13 is $5K under invoice, so I'm having second thoughts.



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Posted 17 September 2014 - 12:40 AM

I'm looking at applying the same logic to a 13 c-max.  Any advice on what to look for, recommended options?

Check out Bloomington Ford in Bloomington, IN. They have a loaded 2013 C-max Energi that I almost bought. It has the best package and every option. I had them down to $29,500, but wanted a couple thousand more and they wouldn't budge. Plus, my wife didn't like it that much (she has a '13 Fusion Hybrid that she truly loves and did not want to trade, even though she would use almost no gas on her 22-mile daily commute if we had bought the C-max.)

Anyway, 2 weeks after we left the dealership, they called and offered to sell it to us for $27,500, but she said she flat out didn't want it!
So, after the tax credit, you'd be looking at about $23,500 for a loaded, brand new C-max Energi!

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#25 OFFLINE   tr7driver

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Posted 17 September 2014 - 08:42 AM

The White one?  I looked at it on the internet.  Is it as nice in person as it looks on the web?



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Posted 17 September 2014 - 08:44 AM

If something tragic happened to mine, this would be a good way to go.  I had tried to do it on a Flex, the incentives were crazy on the 13 models at the time, but I just could not find one I liked.  The incentives were $6K off along with 0% for 72 months, that would be 6K off Invoice for me.   However, if it isn't what you like, it sure is not worth it. 


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Posted 17 September 2014 - 10:04 AM

The White one?  I looked at it on the internet.  Is it as nice in person as it looks on the web?

  

Check out Bloomington Ford in Bloomington, IN. They have a loaded 2013 C-max Energi that I almost bought. It has the best package and every option.

Yes, it was beautiful, and I would've bought it. I think my wife was a little intimidated with the plug-in principle (she's not the geek I am), and it contributed to her not wanting it this time.
If you do go look at it, be sure to ask them in advance to charge it. It was not charged when we went to look at it, so we didn't get to drive it in EV mode.

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Posted 17 September 2014 - 10:18 AM

To the original question: "If you could get an Energi Titanium for nothing, would you take it?"

My answer at this time would be "no", because of the trunk space issue. (That is specifically why we were looking at the new 2013 C-max Energi above.) I'm hoping that in the next generation of Fusion Energi, that Ford will find a way to increase available trunk space.
If we were in a position to only use the Energi for local driving (making the trunk size less important), the answer would be a resounding "YES"!!

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Posted 22 September 2014 - 08:24 AM

I bought that C-max Energi from Bloomington Ford Saturday.  They were very professional and made me a great deal.  Then I had a nice 4 hour drive home.


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Posted 22 September 2014 - 08:54 AM

I bought that C-max Energi from Bloomington Ford Saturday.  They were very professional and made me a great deal.  Then I had a nice 4 hour drive home.

Fantastic!!! MyFord Mobile can be a little frustrating at times but is overall pretty awesome. Have you had any issues getting the C-Max setup on the app & configured?


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Posted 22 September 2014 - 03:41 PM

No issues getting the C-max set up.  There are some differences between it and the FFH.  I really like how ford set up the climate control and Sony Radio controls as compared with the Fusion HyTi.  The ride is very quiet and similar in both cars, but the c-max brakes aren't as "grabby" as the HyTi.

 

I downloaded the app and am in a "24 hour waiting Period" before I can continue.  I'm trying to find "oil life" as I'm in the same boat of a 11 month old car with 300 miles on it.  I want to check and see if I can use the same spare with both cars, have you tried that?  The voice commands work better with the c-max for some reason. I set up the value charge and ready to drive features, very slick.  The heater was running this morning, when I came into the garage the fan noise surprised me.

 

Are your parents on one of the forums?  It is good to see some familiar names there from this list, I know they will be helpful.



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Posted 22 September 2014 - 08:45 PM

No issues getting the C-max set up.  There are some differences between it and the FFH.  I really like how ford set up the climate control and Sony Radio controls as compared with the Fusion HyTi.  The ride is very quiet and similar in both cars, but the c-max brakes aren't as "grabby" as the HyTi.

 

I downloaded the app and am in a "24 hour waiting Period" before I can continue.  I'm trying to find "oil life" as I'm in the same boat of a 11 month old car with 300 miles on it.  I want to check and see if I can use the same spare with both cars, have you tried that?  The voice commands work better with the c-max for some reason. I set up the value charge and ready to drive features, very slick.  The heater was running this morning, when I came into the garage the fan noise surprised me.

 

Are your parents on one of the forums?  It is good to see some familiar names there from this list, I know they will be helpful.

The C-Max doesn't display Oil Life on the screen like the Fusion will. It also doesn't show the speed of the cruise control when turned on. I have never bothered with investing in a donut spare. The C-Max Energi & Fusion Energi & Focus Electric all have the same size rims & tires. The Fusion Hybrid with 17-inch wheels has the same rim but different tires. The Fusion with 18-inch wheels is a different story. We learned here that the spare that works for the FFH doesn't work in the Energi. I have no idea about how the C-Max Energi fits in all this.

 

My parents don't do forums lol

 

Also, does your C-Max have MPGe or just MPG? Does it have the Lifetime Summary? The Fusion Hybrid/Energi lost the Lifetime Summary with MY2014 and the Energi lost MPGe at the same time. The C-Max Hybrid/Energi lost those features with Job 3 of MY 2013. If your Energi has MPGe & the Lifetime Summary then it must be Job 2.

 

One nice thing with the Energi is that you should never have to worry about a dead 12V battery since it will charge from the EVSE whenever the car is plugged in.

 

Our Fusion Energi seems to keep the HVB between 85% & 88%. It is always 88% after being plugged in and usually doesn't drop lower than 85% while driving around. When driving the car works to charge it back up to 87% and then the current drops under 1 amp. When the HVB gets down to 85% the car sends 4+ amps to the 12V battery to charge it. Once it reaches 86% that drops to 1-2 amps and once it reaches 87% it drops under 1 amp. I have yet to see the 12V battery be charged higher than 88%.


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Posted 23 September 2014 - 09:16 AM

I'm still figuring out all the new screens.  Where do I find MPGe and Lifetime mpg if is has it?  The sticker on the door shows the build date as 7/13 and ETIS shows 7/10/13.



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Posted 23 September 2014 - 09:54 AM

I'm still figuring out all the new screens.  Where do I find MPGe and Lifetime mpg if is has it?  The sticker on the door shows the build date as 7/13 and ETIS shows 7/10/13.

It's in the same place as where all of the units are selected (temperature, distance).for MPGe.  Lifetime is the last display before the car turns off .



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Posted 23 September 2014 - 11:10 AM

I'm still figuring out all the new screens.  Where do I find MPGe and Lifetime mpg if is has it?  The sticker on the door shows the build date as 7/13 and ETIS shows 7/10/13.

When did 2014 production start for the Fusion? Yours might be Job 3 and without those features. That's why I was only interested in a 2013 Fusion Energi. I think that a PHEV without MPGe is rather worthless because it would only show 999.9 MPG for electric only trips and would provide no feedback about your energy consumption.


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Posted 23 September 2014 - 11:21 AM

None of the threads have dates but I'd guess that your July 2013 production car is without MPGe & the Lifetime Summary :(

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Posted 23 September 2014 - 12:50 PM

Well I just did the same swapped my 13 FFH to a 13 FFE
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Posted 23 September 2014 - 12:57 PM

Looks like the FFE forum will get crowded now :)
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Posted 26 September 2014 - 05:35 PM

In case people are looking for an Energi

Here is a good one 11k under MSRP

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Wrong color for me. ;)
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Posted 26 September 2014 - 05:59 PM

My wife was two thumbs down on that color. She even had a closeup view and said, no way.


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