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2014 Ford Fusion Hybrid Electronic Emergency Break Manual Release?


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#21 OFFLINE   padero9615

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Posted 07 May 2014 - 03:24 PM

Wonder how they got them loaded without the keys. From what I understand the brake is activated Key On and can only be deactivated Key On.  The only way you can move them is with dollies under the rear axle. 


They had the keys when they loaded them most likely. Then the keys somehow disappeared in transit.

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#22 OFFLINE   padero9615

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Posted 07 May 2014 - 03:27 PM

Ford Roadside Assistance would not apply to a car in transit from the factory.  He works at the place where they unload cars from the train.
 
It's easy to get the car out of Park.  Pull off the right side lower console panel, it's held by spring clips.  Stick a long screwdriver in the slot and move the colored pawl to release the shifter.
I suspect the parking brake release switch just sends a signal to the computer to tell it to release the brake.


Exactly. You would like to think there is a way to work around this but I've still got nothing.

#23 OFFLINE   padero9615

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Posted 07 May 2014 - 03:28 PM

I agree with GrySql. What did Ford Roadside Assistance say?


They were clueless.

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Posted 07 May 2014 - 04:03 PM

Can you actually shift the car without keys? ...

 

Hi jeffo65,

 

 I can get the insight you need. Your inquiry has been forwarded to Ford experts; I will keep you posted as soon as I receive their feedback.  ;)

 

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Posted 07 May 2014 - 04:32 PM

What else we need to know is that you have a legal right to be moving those cars.........and there is no way for us to know if you have a legal claim on them or not.

 

For all we know, you are just trying to find out how to defeat part of the vehicle security for some other actual purpose and most of the story is "made up".

 

If Ford can't or won't help you, I'm thinking that WE should not either.

 

If, for instance, those cars were destined to be delivered to an actual Ford dealer, you should involve THEM in the problem.

They should be able to solve the problem MUCH quicker and easier than you can.


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Posted 07 May 2014 - 04:37 PM

What else we need to know is that you have a legal right to be moving those cars.........and there is no way for us to know if you have a legal claim on them or not.
 
For all we know, you are just trying to find out how to defeat part of the vehicle security for some other actual purpose and most of the story is "made up".
 
If Ford can't or won't help you, I'm thinking that WE should not either.

Yes I do. Thanks for your help. Like I said we have gone through all the necessary channels for information and came up empty handed. This was a last resort. If you can't help that's fine but I'm not going to get into that with you. It's pointless. Thanks again

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Posted 07 May 2014 - 07:13 PM

The electric parking brake is my least favorite feature on the whole car. how much more expensive than  just a pedal for absolutely no increased ability. It’s slow, I have to sit and watch the light on the dash to know if it’s done it’s thing. Sometimes I don’t have enough of my foot on the brake pedal and it wont put itself on or off. Just yuck. Sorry I can’t help with the actual problem, but I can commiserate about the dumb electric parking brake.



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Posted 07 May 2014 - 07:19 PM

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Posted 07 May 2014 - 07:27 PM

The electric parking brake is my least favorite feature on the whole car. how much more expensive than  just a pedal for absolutely no increased ability. Its slow, I have to sit and watch the light on the dash to know if its done its thing. Sometimes I dont have enough of my foot on the brake pedal and it wont put itself on or off. Just yuck. Sorry I cant help with the actual problem, but I can commiserate about the dumb electric parking brake.


So you would rather have a stupid hand or foot brake? I have used mine maybe twice and you don't have to wait just get in and go it will release the brake automatically no need to wait for the slow electrons to do their job. ;)
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Posted 07 May 2014 - 09:14 PM

Hi jeffo65,

 

 I can get the insight you need. Your inquiry has been forwarded to Ford experts; I will keep you posted as soon as I receive their feedback.  ;)

 

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Posted 08 May 2014 - 07:31 AM

From the shop manual:

 

Whenever the parking brake switch is disconnected and then reconnected, a DTC sets in the ABS module and the ABS module disables the parking brake system. To restore parking brake system functionality and to clear the DTC, the parking brake switch must be moved through all 3 positions twice within 5 seconds pausing for approximately one-half second when the switch is in the NEUTRAL position between each apply and release

 

It's not clear if this only works when the ignition is on, but you could try disconnecting the switch to see if it will release the brake.



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Posted 08 May 2014 - 09:54 AM

Look under the floor mat or in the glove box.



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Posted 08 May 2014 - 10:41 AM

So you would rather have a stupid hand or foot brake? I have used mine maybe twice and you don't have to wait just get in and go it will release the brake automatically no need to wait for the slow electrons to do their job. ;)

wait... so I dont actually have to turn it off myself? I’ve put it in gear without releasing it and it didn’t go off then... but it will when I start to move? I’ll try that momentarily when I go out :) That would be great. I only just figured out I didn’t need to actually hold it until the break was on or off, I’m slow ;) But thats how the car dealer guy demonstrated it. And I read the whole silly manual, you’d think I’d have noticed this...



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Posted 08 May 2014 - 11:07 AM

wait... so I dont actually have to turn it off myself?

Page 181 in the FFH OM.

Automatic release - drive away release

Note: The driver's door must be closed and the driver's safety belt must be fastened before this feature will operate.


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Posted 08 May 2014 - 11:52 AM

wait... so I dont actually have to turn it off myself? Ive put it in gear without releasing it and it didnt go off then... but it will when I start to move? Ill try that momentarily when I go out :) That would be great. I only just figured out I didnt need to actually hold it until the break was on or off, Im slow ;) But thats how the car dealer guy demonstrated it. And I read the whole silly manual, youd think Id have noticed this...


You got it ... the dealer guy not so much! :)
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Posted 08 May 2014 - 12:57 PM

it works! :) Feels wrong though because the car is obviously still got the break on when you start applying the gas. I’ll get used to it ;)



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Posted 08 May 2014 - 01:53 PM

BTW...  it is spelled BRAKE not BREAK.  :zombi:


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Posted 08 May 2014 - 02:57 PM

It must be auto-corrects fault ;) That guy never gets the proper context ;)



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Posted 08 May 2014 - 03:41 PM

Just a quick comment...  I've used my emergency brake once. And that was to test it.   I like the way it operates.  Unlike the manual emergency brake in my F-150.  Which, until fixed under warranty, the cable had a tendence to hang up and would not release the brake.

 

To padero9615 - I'm surprised Ford Canada or the dealers are not helping you.  If they can't get the cars delivered, they don't get paid.  That and I'm sure the rail company is real happy about having one of their transport cars sitting idle with cargo that can't be unloaded.



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Posted 08 May 2014 - 06:46 PM

BTW...  it is spelled BRAKE not BREAK.  :zombi:

Luckily I've never had my brake break.


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