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#61 OFFLINE   FordService

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Posted 23 September 2014 - 08:31 AM

I'll do it right now. Thanks!

 

I got your PM and sent you a response, Kcouture25; thanks for reaching out! :)

 

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Posted 23 November 2014 - 02:14 PM

Changed my oil yesterday and was curious what I'd see when I dropped the large cover underneath the engine compartment. I had previously noticed some evidence of fluid leakage around the transmission case halves during the previous oil change. Not that I thought it would get better, but I don't think it was significantly worse. Snapped a few pics. I was thinking of re-torquing the bolts, but was unable to easily find the specs, so I simply took a 13mm hand wrench to each of the three bolts you can see here. I wasn't concerned about over-torquing, since I couldn't get much leverage, but I was surprised that I was able to snug them just a hair tighter.

 

I have almost 30K on the car now. I'm assuming this would fall under the 5 year/60K drivetrain warranty, so I plan to keep an eye on it. If it seems to be mitigated by snugging the bolts, I may not worry about taking it to a dealer, since it's even chances they'll muck this up (or something else) one way or another.

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Posted 23 November 2014 - 03:10 PM

Changed my oil yesterday and was curious what I'd see when I dropped the large cover underneath the engine compartment.

In your second picture it almost looks like the leaking is occuring around the head of the bold where it mates to the aluminum transmission case. There appears to be oil clinging at that location which is at a higher elevation that the seal between the two halves of the transmission case. Does not seem like oil would have migrated from the seal (between the halves) to the bolt head.


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Posted 23 November 2014 - 03:29 PM

I was thinking of re-torquing the bolts, but was unable to easily find the specs, so I simply took a 13mm hand wrench to each of the three bolts you can see here. I wasn't concerned about over-torquing, since I couldn't get much leverage, but I was surprised that I was able to snug them just a hair tighter.

 

The 7 bolts that attach the HF-35 CVT to the engine are: Torque: 35 lb.ft (48 Nm)

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The 21 Case Cover bolts are: Torque: 18 lb.ft (25 Nm)

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Install the transmission case end cover assembly and the bolts.
Torque: 18 lb.ft (25 Nm)

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Posted 23 November 2014 - 03:39 PM

Changed my oil yesterday and was curious what I'd see when I dropped the large cover underneath the engine compartment. I had previously noticed some evidence of fluid leakage around the transmission case halves during the previous oil change. Not that I thought it would get better, but I don't think it was significantly worse. Snapped a few pics. I was thinking of re-torquing the bolts, but was unable to easily find the specs, so I simply took a 13mm hand wrench to each of the three bolts you can see here. I wasn't concerned about over-torquing, since I couldn't get much leverage, but I was surprised that I was able to snug them just a hair tighter.

 

I have almost 30K on the car now. I'm assuming this would fall under the 5 year/60K drivetrain warranty, so I plan to keep an eye on it. If it seems to be mitigated by snugging the bolts, I may not worry about taking it to a dealer, since it's even chances they'll muck this up (or something else) one way or another.

Your pictures look similar to the leaking we had on the white FFH. The dealer claimed that this was "seepage" and not a leak and thus would not be covered under the TSB.


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Posted 23 November 2014 - 03:47 PM

Your pictures look similar to the leaking we had on the white FFH. The dealer claimed that this was "seepage" and not a leak and thus would not be covered under the TSB.

The amount of fluid that has accumulated on the engine cover looks more than seepage, Dealers say some interesting things. 

That engine cover will absorb the fluid and eventually be destroyed and need replacement if the leaks are not fixed.

Hopefully, now that the bolts are tighter there may be less 'seepage'.


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Posted 23 November 2014 - 03:55 PM

Your pictures look similar to the leaking we had on the white FFH. The dealer claimed that this was "seepage" and not a leak and thus would not be covered under the TSB

 

That picture does not look like a seep, it looks like a leak. If there's oil drops hanging off the case, that's a leak. If the car did not have the lower engine cover, then the oil would have dripped on the ground, which would be a leak. 

 

Since the transmission does not have a dipstick, you have to check the oil level through a plug on the drivers side of the transmission case. Thats not something that everyone will do including a full serve gas station or even a dealer. So if your transmission is leaking, you probably don't know how much fluid is in it. I would get it repaired a.s.a.p.


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Posted 23 November 2014 - 06:19 PM

 

That picture does not look like a seep, it looks like a leak. If the car did not have the lower engine cover, then the oil would have dripped on the ground, which would be a leak. 

 

Since the transmission does not have a dipstick, you have to check the oil level through a plug on the drivers side of the transmission case. Thats not something that everyone will do including a full serve gas station. So if your transmission is leaking, you probably don't know how much fluid is in it. I would get it repaired a.s.a.p.

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The transmission fluid should be even with the bottom of the oil leveling plug hole.

The Mityvac MITMV6412 ATF Refill System is used to add fluid to the HF-35, so it's a Dealer fix only. 


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Posted 24 November 2014 - 09:59 AM

The amount of fluid that has accumulated on the engine cover looks more than seepage, Dealers say some interesting things. 

That engine cover will absorb the fluid and eventually be destroyed and need replacement if the leaks are not fixed.

Hopefully, now that the bolts are tighter there may be less 'seepage'.

That picture does not look like a seep, it looks like a leak. If there's oil drops hanging off the case, that's a leak. If the car did not have the lower engine cover, then the oil would have dripped on the ground, which would be a leak. 

 

Since the transmission does not have a dipstick, you have to check the oil level through a plug on the drivers side of the transmission case. That's not something that everyone will do including a full serve gas station or even a dealer. So if your transmission is leaking, you probably don't know how much fluid is in it. I would get it repaired a.s.a.p.

I agree. I will never return to that dealer for sales or service. I asked if they checked the fluid level. They said that there was no need since the leak was so slow that it would take a long time before low fluid became an issue. Some dealers are truly incompetent...


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Posted 24 November 2014 - 10:16 PM

I'll get it checked out sometime soon, probably in conjunction with a couple recalls. I honestly believe the amount of fluid lost is negligible. We'll see. Maybe I can get a service appointment aligned with my holiday leave in December. Hard to go without a car...

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Posted 01 February 2015 - 04:55 PM

Ditto. Went to change engine oil when prompted by alert. Pulled the FRP skid plate and voila! Oil seeping from transaxle case. At 8300 miles, this Ford leaks more tranny fluid than my 2002 Taurus.



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Posted 03 February 2015 - 07:35 PM

Ditto. Went to change engine oil when prompted by alert. Pulled the FRP skid plate and voila! Oil seeping from transaxle case. At 8300 miles, this Ford leaks more tranny fluid than my 2002 Taurus.

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Posted 28 September 2015 - 09:08 AM

Took mine 2013 (purchased used, in late June with just over 8K miles) for (my) first oil change at 10,500 miles, and my mechanic reported that I have a "leaking transaxle in the hybrid drive case".

If this is actually a component of the Hybrid drive-train, it should be covered under the 100K mile warranty yes?  Does anyone know how long a repair (at my authorized dealer) take?  Is this something where I'll need to arrange time off?  drop off for half of a day? or something that I can have done while I wait?

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Posted 28 September 2015 - 11:19 AM

Took mine 2013 (purchased used, in late June with just over 8K miles) for (my) first oil change at 10,500 miles, and my mechanic reported that I have a "leaking transaxle in the hybrid drive case".

If this is actually a component of the Hybrid drive-train, it should be covered under the 100K mile warranty yes?  Does anyone know how long a repair (at my authorized dealer) take?  Is this something where I'll need to arrange time off?  drop off for half of a day? or something that I can have done while I wait?

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You can read the experiences of others in this thread. It appears that the repair is not something that can be completed while you wait. You can try contacting a variety of dealers to ask for a loaner vehicle while your car is serviced. It should be covered under the 8/100 warranty.


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Posted 27 November 2015 - 10:44 AM

Just found out I have this issue TSB 14-0085 on my 13 Fusion Hybrid @ 16000 miles.  Found during a normal oil change.

Dealer needs car for 3 days or so like the others.  Would not normally see this very slow leak because of the covering

under the car not letting it out.

 

Curious if anybody who has had this was OK afterwards?  Seems to be straightforward to fix.  Sill server woman/person

service person can't tell me a thing about it at all, not at all technical.  I totally trust the mechanic, but trust people in

these forums more !

 

Anybody who had this give an update?

 


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Posted 12 January 2016 - 12:37 PM

Don't want to bring up an older topic, but I experienced the same issue on my 2014 FFH over the summer. Same sort of thing could see a stain on the bottom cover, and  could see a drip or two of reddish fluid on the bottom of the transmission. took it in they were like yup, we will get the parts and fix it up ~3 days but mine was longer as the mechanic working on mine had a death in the family. Turns out just anybody cant walk into the middle of a torn apart tyranny and put it back together :P  Also to note was under the bumper to bumper warranty at this point. has been 6 months and changed my oil again, checked out the transmission no leaks or drips that I could find so far so good!


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Posted 14 January 2016 - 01:23 PM

Don't want to bring up an older topic

Resurrecting an older topic is better than starting a new one about the same subject!


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Posted 31 July 2016 - 07:13 PM

Well, I just found out I have the notorius ecvt/transaxle leak. I bought the car used from a Ford dealer. This was my first oil change since owning the car. After dropping the wind/water shield, I immediatly noticed oil seepage from the transaxle halves, but I was not exactly sure where the seepage was coming from. I completely cleaned the entire area so that I can monitor where exactly it is coming from. Being a certified ASE tech, it appears to be coming from the trans. halves. Btw, it was built 9/2013, with only 20,000 miles. I guess, after my next oil change I will be taking a visit to the dealer after confirming the exact location of the leak. I hope I dont get the runaround. Being a mechanic for over 30 years, any type of oil leakage on a low mile vehicle, whether it be seepage or drips is unacceptable.



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Posted 21 September 2016 - 05:34 PM

I have been telling myself how lucky I am that this hasn't happened to our 2013 FFH SE.  That was until this morning, when I took it to my dealer for an oil change, tire rotation, and any maintenance needed at 25,000 miles.  The technician told me there's a transmission leak, and they had to add 1.5 quarts of transmission fluid.  They can't get the car in for repair until Monday, and the work will take "at least two days."  So a road trip to Iowa that we had planned for Tuesday is indefinitely postponed.

 

Coincidentally, I had run a Vehicle Health Report on Sept. 19.  Everything, including the Engine, Transmission & Emissions, was fine.  Why wouldn't a transmission leak, and the accompanying low fluid level, have shown up in the VHR?  Does the VHR really tell us anything? 


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Posted 21 September 2016 - 06:03 PM

They owe you a loaner car for sure, will likely take a week to get parts and fix.
Drive the loaner car across the country!

Easy fix really and if done right, should not have an issue again.

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