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#21 OFFLINE   B25Nut

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Posted 24 June 2013 - 06:08 PM

 

 

As far as the looks of either car, while I am perfectly willing to concede that the FFH is, BY FAR, the sexiest looking car we've tested (or that you've mentioned otherwise), I'm at an age where that's not going to figure significantly in the decision about what to buy.

 

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Posted 24 June 2013 - 10:00 PM

I might as well jump in here and keep it off topic one more time.

My brother just bought a mid-level optioned 2013 VW Golf 4-door TDI,  his '08 Jetta TDI was crashed.

Looks like a Kenmore refrig on it's side with extra freezer doors to me but I smiled and said it was lovely.

Anyway, esthetics aside, he says he gets about 36-38 around town and 42 on the highway so far, expects more as the miles pile on.

He likes driving it, has a Sport suspension button for the twisty roads and he claims the seats are comfortable. 

Not much in the way of gadgets and gizmos inside or out, but that can be a good thing for some.

I say get what makes you happy.

 

I really don't understand why I love this FFH so much, even with all downsides that get reported here.


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#23 OFFLINE   aaronj1159

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Posted 25 June 2013 - 07:00 AM

Gotta say I'm partial to VWs. Had nothing but good experiences with two different vehicles, although neither was a TDi. The main reason I looked elsewhere when buying was to avoid diesel prices (it's a big jump here) and because I dislike the styling of the Jetta Hybrid, plus it was too small for me. Also, VW dealers are few and far between where I live (The closest being more than an hour away) and it costs an amazing amount of money to fix the smallest issues. 



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Posted 13 August 2013 - 10:12 PM

I know im a little late on the TDI comments. But I will say that the TDI engines in the VW's are great. The issue is even the current 2013 passat is dated. The interior looks like something from the early 2000s and in 2015 its suppost to get an update with the higher powered diesel and better mpg. We will just have to see on that one as if the passat wasnt so boring I would have picked it over my MKZ. Maybe in 2017-2018 when I get another new vehicle ill consider it. 


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Posted 06 September 2013 - 09:54 AM

EPA ratings annouced for the Accord Hybrid.

Check out this article from USA TODAY:

Accord hybrid rated 50 mpg in city

http://usat.ly/17D1Drm
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Posted 06 September 2013 - 10:15 AM

I remember the last Accord attempt, which nobody bought, mainly because of the price. This time it seems they may have done much better. That dash tho! Could there be any more screens to look at? I really like the FFH approach.

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#27 OFFLINE   dalesky

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Posted 06 September 2013 - 10:17 AM

EPA ratings annouced for the Accord Hybrid.
Check out this article from USA TODAY:
Accord hybrid rated 50 mpg in city
http://usat.ly/17D1Drm

Wonder how they are getting this high city figure with a sedan this large. I know Toyota is redesigning the Prius, and expects to have higher city mileage as well.

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#28 OFFLINE   dalesky

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Posted 06 September 2013 - 10:19 AM

Gotta say I'm partial to VWs. Had nothing but good experiences with two different vehicles, although neither was a TDi. The main reason I looked elsewhere when buying was to avoid diesel prices (it's a big jump here) and because I dislike the styling of the Jetta Hybrid, plus it was too small for me. Also, VW dealers are few and far between where I live (The closest being more than an hour away) and it costs an amazing amount of money to fix the smallest issues.

Here too the price difference is quite large. It's a shame since we have such good year round weather and a diesel is so easy to live with in warmer climates especially.

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Posted 06 September 2013 - 10:22 AM

I might as well jump in here and keep it off topic one more time.
My brother just bought a mid-level optioned 2013 VW Golf 4-door TDI,  his '08 Jetta TDI was crashed.
Looks like a Kenmore refrig on it's side with extra freezer doors to me but I smiled and said it was lovely.
Anyway, esthetics aside, he says he gets about 36-38 around town and 42 on the highway so far, expects more as the miles pile on.
He likes driving it, has a Sport suspension button for the twisty roads and he claims the seats are comfortable. 
Not much in the way of gadgets and gizmos inside or out, but that can be a good thing for some.
I say get what makes you happy.
 
I really don't understand why I love this FFH so much, even with all downsides that get reported here.



Last night, auto start to cool the car before I got in, AC at 74, trip of about 15 miles at speeds up to 65, I got 55 MPG. Diesel, schmiesel! We don't need no stinking diesel, do we?
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Posted 06 September 2013 - 08:22 PM

Wonder how they are getting this high city figure with a sedan this large. I know Toyota is redesigning the Prius, and expects to have higher city mileage as well.

They gamed the EPA test cycles just like Ford!!! I can't wait to see what the real world results are! My guess is that Honda will try to not sell these just like they're doing with the plug in so that they won't have many cars on the road and thus less complaints about bad MPGs.


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Posted 07 September 2013 - 03:10 PM

For those saying they did just like ford. Take a look at the size of the battery in that car. I cant find info right this min but I did before when i looked. Its massively larger than our car has. Trunk space is massively small too. 

 

Motortrend in there testing got 59mpg with it tho. 

 

 

http://www.motortren...an_first_drive/

 

 

 

Japanese specs, so we will loose some MPG by the fact that everything in the USA gets the software ... with before it gets to our hands even if all it does is makes things worse (Cell phones and crapware are a good example).

 

Ill try to find the battery size info for you guys in a few min. 


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Posted 07 September 2013 - 03:23 PM

Fusion 1.4kWh battery.

Accord Hybrid Plug-in 41kWh

Accord Hybrid 6.7kWh

 

 

Says the accord looses right under 9cu ft of trunk space because of the battery vs the gas model. My trunk is already small, I dont want that lol


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Posted 07 September 2013 - 03:36 PM

Not sure how these numbers make sense the regular HAH has a HVB that almost 5x bigger but they are only rated 3 MPG higher for city than a FFH?!?

This battery is almost as big as the FFE HVB which can go 21 miles EV only.

AND there is another reason I bought (and would buy again) a FFH even if the results aren't top anymore; there is nothing more stupid IMO than making a hybrid version stand out from the regular car. All these blue accents everywhere bah ...

I so glad that Ford made the FFH as normal looking and hardly visible different from its gas only brothers and sisters.

Anyway we all have our own opinions and I still love my decision to buy a FFH.

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Posted 07 September 2013 - 03:40 PM

I dont mind the blue stuff. But the accord is still just that. A blah accord.

 

I think with the bigger battery that would benefit in hilly situations. Engine pushing you up and keeping the SOC high. 

 

Based on what I see in the MKZ though charging the battery pulls the milage down on flat land. Hills may help us also. 

 

 

As for the FFH... That happy hybrid logo on the side... LOL

 

I like my little 2.0H


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Posted 07 September 2013 - 03:53 PM

I like my little 2.0H


That might even be a nice little mod because I that decal on the MKZ. On the other hand I have a custom hybrid specific license plate frame so I don't mind the hybrid logos but like I said I don't not like all the hybrid mods on the competition.
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Posted 07 September 2013 - 04:05 PM

I saw what i believe was a yaris hybrid earlier and it actually looked pretty good.. Was too small to be a prius for sure and it has the blue logo and ... on the front lol


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Posted 07 September 2013 - 07:28 PM

They gamed the EPA test cycles just like Ford!!! I can't wait to see what the real world results are! My guess is that Honda will try to not sell these just like they're doing with the plug in so that they won't have many cars on the road and thus less complaints about bad MPGs.

The way the EPA has structured the tests I don't blame the manufacturers really. I do wish there was an honest attempt to show real world numbers, but until everyone agrees on how to do that I guess we have to read the reviews, like Consumer Reports and others that do give honest figures. I would not be surprised to see that Honda is doing exactly what every other manufacturer is doing. Given the horsepower of their electric motor, it will take some significant amount of ICE fuel to run it.


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Posted 07 September 2013 - 07:29 PM

Atleast we dont have the problems they have in europe. I think 50mpg here is around 70mpg there..


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Posted 07 September 2013 - 07:40 PM

Atleast we dont have the problems they have in europe. I think 50mpg here is around 70mpg there..


Not quite that high but the FFH would be rated 52 city and is just because the test cycles are different.
They actually test city/highway/autobahn which I believe are at 30/60/80 MPH roughly.
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Posted 07 September 2013 - 07:49 PM

Motortrend in their testing got 59mpg with it tho. 

http://www.motortren...an_first_drive/

Their comments about driving to maximize fuel economy and easily clearing the EPA rating are the same with the FFH. It all depends on how and where you drive.


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