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[Sky14FFH]

701 miles on 13.51 gallons.  Way too close to ever try it again.  Carried around some gas in the trunk just in case. Had to use the A/C sometimes.  700 mile tank.JPG   74.87KB   0 downloads

[ptjones]

701 miles on 13.51 gallons.  Way too close to ever try it again.  Carried around some gas in the trunk just in case. Had to use the A/C sometimes.700 mile tank.JPG

When Miles to empty reaches 0 you should be able to go another 25 miles. BTW I tested the FFH tank and it holds 14.1 gal., how many gal. did it take to fill up your car?  Good job!   

[Sky14FFH]

Yeah it was about 668 when it went to 0.  Squeezed in 13.6.

Edited by Sky14FFH, 20 August 2017 - 08:58 PM.

[ptjones]

So you went 33 miles passed 0 to E, Now that I think about it I may have gone 60-80 miles passed 0 to E. I thought the FFH would never run out of gas.   At the end I was using a 4 mile loop so I was never to far from the Station where I wanted to fill up. I did try to keep HVB charged up so I would have good range in EV.  When it finally did I was about 2 miles from Gas Station, but was able to EV all the way there.

 

Paul 

[Sky14FFH]

ptjones So you actually drained it?  Is that when you got 902 miles?  Isn't it bad for the injectors to drain the tank down to nothing in any car? That's what I've always heard, but not just when empty but for the little bits of debris that could be in the bottom of the tank.  I won't be doing this again (unless I am managing 60miles per gallon) but the best I've ever gotten is 53mpg but never could get over that.  I'm taking it easy right now and the dash is reading 54 and since I am mostly aclimatized to the summer I don't need ac, maybe I can continue that for a personal best.

[ptjones]

Here is a thread I started back in Jan. 2014 on fuel tank capacity: http://fordfusionhyb...1gal-fuel-tank/  and as far as harming the fuel injectors from running out of  gas, I ran out of gas 6 times in my CMAX in the first couple of years I had my car and now I have 161k mi. and I'm getting the best MPG's ever.  BTW when you run out of gas there is still gas in the tank and there is also a fuel filter to protect the fuel system.

 

Paul

[rwhgme]

610.9 miles. Readout indicated 55.2. Actual 53.3. Very happy!

[Sky14FFH]

I ran out of gas 6 times in my CMAX in the first couple of years I had my car...when you run out of gas there is still gas in the tank and there is also a fuel filter to protect the fuel system.

I literally mean run out of gas as in ICE won't run nor start.  I once ran out of gas in my other Ford just to see how far it would go before empty and it took a while to get it started again after putting a couple gallons in it.  Conventional wisdom back then said that having air sent through the injectors could hurt them or the fuel pump but perhaps on the newer systems they do something to compensate for that. Also, having a clogged fuel filter is a problem too.  Changing those out is a messy pain in the arse.  I know, I've done it.

Edited by Sky14FFH, 17 December 2017 - 09:12 AM.

[ptjones]

As soon as the fuel system losses pressure the ICE stops, there is still fuel in the lines so after putting fuel in the tank the ICE will immediately start. I currently have 175k miles on My CMAX.   BTW the fuel filter never needs changing.

 

Paul

[ceilidhdog]

Finally decided to try it... and made it!  I'm especially happy because the driving was done at Denver's mile-high altitude... with occasional AC.  Love this car!

 

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[mwr]

I'm especially happy because the driving was done at Denver's mile-high altitude

Less air resistance up there :-)

[ceilidhdog]

Less air resistance up there :-)

 

 

[markbhoward]

I average over 50 mpg so far. That's mostly city driving, in summer, and I rarely use the a/c. So 700 miles can be done. I've been getting gas at about 600 miles because the car tells me to, and I miss the gas station.

[ptjones]

You bought the wrong car if you miss the gas station. LOL I thought the whole point was not to see the gas station anymore than you have too.   How many extra days can you go if you make 700 mi.?

 

Paul

[Sky14FFH]

You bought the wrong car if you miss the gas station.

Paul, I'm going to hazard to guess that he was joking.  I don't know who doesn't hate the gas station.  Once a month isn't seldom enough.  I got another 600+ mile tank this summer but didn't think much of it to post it here.  Think it was 652.  It's always an ass cheek squeezer when the low fuel light gets in the red because I am still uncertain at what point I might run out of gas even though I never have in the fusion.  I ended up only putting 12 gallons in so it was worry for nothing.  The thing is I wish the fusion was all electric now because I hate gas stations that much, fithy dangerous places where you're exposed to cigarette smoke and a whole assortment of tattoed malcontents. 

  One of the problems I have with the fusion is the placement of the battery which is why I have a problem with the Energi.  The battery should be placed underneath like on other electric or hybrid cars.   I'd prefer a flat trunk and a hatchback model like the Mondeos in Europe.  Now when I say hatchback I don't mean SUV or Focus like but like the old Probes or Nissan 240sxes had where the shape of the car is the same but you can get more into it.  Ford seems to have confused that.  Hope they don't do away with the Fusion or make it an SUV only model. 

[ptjones]

I was LOL. That is why I like the CMAX Hybrid hatchback, Energi has the bump in the trunk too, but still a hatchback. 2017 was last year for CMAX Energi and 2019 looks like the last year for FFE/FFH.  I'm intrigued with the 2019 FFE better HVB with the 25 miles range EV. I think with my MODS and Driving technique I could get it up to 40 miles EV or so.  

 

Paul 

[rdr]

18,000 miles on my 2017 FFH SE and the fuel mileage is a respectable 52.8 mpg since it was purchased. My wife has now taken it over and the fuel mileage is going down down down since she has a more aggressive driving style that keeps the car out of electric mode more than my driving style.

She had a respectable 42.3 mpg after 27k miles on her 2016 FFH when it gave its life last weekend.

[ptjones]

18,000 miles on my 2017 FFH SE and the fuel mileage is a respectable 52.8 mpg since it was purchased. My wife has now taken it over and the fuel mileage is going down down down since she has a more aggressive driving style that keeps the car out of electric mode more than my driving style.

She had a respectable 42.3 mpg after 27k miles on her 2016 FFH when it gave its life last weekend.

Doesn't it have what I call Prius Button that makes you get better MPG's?.  I hate that button, I bought my CMAX because it doesn't drive like a Prius.

 

Paul