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#21 OFFLINE   corncobs

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Posted 15 May 2013 - 08:07 PM

Nice idea and I thought the same when I first saw my factory code it looked familiar but doesn't work for my code combinations;

key code: 0ayxx

factory code: xxya9

The middle # is the same but in my case the last two are the first two its like flipped around the center with one # different but it's the same on the keypad.
Not sure if that idea holds true or not.
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#22 OFFLINE   brcd131

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Posted 15 May 2013 - 08:13 PM

My middle numbers weren't exactly the same (5/6), but they are the same on the keypad. Close enough.


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Posted 15 May 2013 - 08:28 PM

That brings up an interesting question;

Is a number sequence 01357 the same as 92468 on the keypad?
Or do you have to double tip the 1 key to get to 2?

I haven't tried it it just crossed my mind.
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Posted 15 May 2013 - 08:33 PM

That brings up an interesting question;

Is a number sequence 01357 the same as 92468 on the keypad?
Or do you have to double tip the 1 key to get to 2?

I haven't tried it it just crossed my mind.

1 and 2 are the same.  They didn't want 10 physical keys but wanted you to be able to use your favorite 5 digit number.

12121 would be a really poor choice for a code.



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Posted 15 May 2013 - 08:59 PM

Well, that was an interesting experiment.

I read out the code for my car.

It was wrong in a predictable way.

 

If the readout numbers are      ABCDE

rearrange them in this order    BACED

 

In other words the first two digist are reversed and the last two digits are reversed.

Only the middle digit is in the right place.

 

Let us know if it works for you.

I may have gotten the formula wrong because of the numbers in my code.

 

If the readout is      ABCDE

Try                          EDCBA

 

With my code either method gives the same result but this second one is much more likely.



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Posted 15 May 2013 - 10:02 PM

That sounds very possible and fits my numbers.

Very nice solution, well done 👍👏
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Posted 16 May 2013 - 10:29 AM

Can you tell us where in the manual are the instructions to read out the key code?

 

Just to confirm, you're talking about the key code (which I am missing), and not the

door keypad code, correct?

 


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Posted 16 May 2013 - 10:58 AM

Can you tell us where in the manual are the instructions to read out the key code?
 
Just to confirm, you're talking about the key code (which I am missing), and not the
door keypad code, correct?
 


Correct we are talking about the key code you need for a replacement key.

In the manual I have on my phone it's page 57. Interesting enough they are talking about the factory key code so go figure.
Here is a screen shot not sure how well it will show up.

B952D988-7EC7-401C-A094-DD13992B239A-100

But as we have discovered this code also works for the keypad if you flip the numbers. So if you have ABCDE on the key code; EDCBA should open the door via keypad.
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Posted 16 May 2013 - 11:06 AM

Ah got it, thanks.  Missed the fact that I can get this myself.

I will try this from home tonight.  But it really doesn't say this is

the IA key code and not the keypad code.  I'll do it and find

out, I have the keypad code card, no issues with that.

 

So now murphy says that the digits are swapped, is this for everybody?  I assume that

for those who have the original code, then they do the read out - this is where you

realized the digits are swapped?  What the heck...?


Edited by smr2112, 16 May 2013 - 11:07 AM.

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Posted 16 May 2013 - 11:08 AM

But as we have discovered this code also works for the keypad if you flip the numbers. So if you have ABCDE on the key code; EDCBA should open the door via keypad.

Does this reversed code match the credit card sized card with the factory code for the door?


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Posted 16 May 2013 - 12:34 PM

Does this reversed code match the credit card sized card with the factory code for the door?

Yes it does.  That is how I figured out it is reversed.

This is NOT the key code for cutting a new key.  The cut code for my IA keys bears no resemblence to the code recovered with the procedure.

There is only one common digit between the two codes.



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Posted 16 May 2013 - 12:42 PM

See, now this makes alot more sense to me.  They description seemed like the keypad code.

I'll know tonight.

So why is it reversed then?  Is this a bug/flaw?


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Posted 16 May 2013 - 01:05 PM

Does this reversed code match the credit card sized card with the factory code for the door?


Yes it does at least to a point that if you try the key code in reverse order it unlocks the door.
Let's say "my" key code is 11719 but my keypad code is 01711 based on the credit card. Since 0 and 9 are the same button the code works; I just tried it.
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Posted 16 May 2013 - 01:07 PM

See, now this makes alot more sense to me.  They description seemed like the keypad code.

I'll know tonight.

So why is it reversed then?  Is this a bug/flaw?

This is the kind of mistake that an inexperienced programmer would make. 

He (she) was told to display the number and failed to ask where the most significant digit was stored.

 

Reminds me of the Intel 8080 microprocessor where a 16 bit word was stored with the least significant byte first and the most significant byte last.


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Posted 16 May 2013 - 01:13 PM

Oh, it's a Big Endian/Little Endian problem, why didn't you say so...  :headspin:

 

My wife thought I was joking when I told her only people with a degree in Computer

Science can figure out how to drive this car...


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Posted 16 May 2013 - 01:26 PM

It's funny but that was probably my fault; when we were talking and going thru the checklist I kept nodding because I already knew most of the stuff; like the the syncmyride account you need.
He actually told that I had already done his job...
He probably showed me where he placed the card but I had only eyes for my new car which was waiting for me on the other side of the showroom window
On the other hand I didn't really see a need for the keypad anyway; until this very day that my not quite 2 year old decided to lock the doors from the inside while the car was running.


I felt the same way when I took possession. It was hard to concentrate on anything they were telling me. It was like information overload at a time when all I wanted to do was get in my car and drive off. In retrospect, having a refresher a week after taking possession would be very helpful. At that point you may have figured some things out on your own, and may have other things you need answered.
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Posted 08 May 2014 - 11:10 PM

I have read through this entire thread and found myself confused. I have a 2013 Fusion SE that I just purchased this week. It was a rental car. I picked it up with 21k  on it and so far love it. My problem is that the plastic factory info card did not come with the car. I do have the packet with the manual in it and the various other info including key cut info but I do not have the door access code. I have searched under the dash on the drivers side and found  two spots with numbers on them. One spot was on a white sticker with a QR code on it right over the brake pedal. None of the numbers worked. The other was found on a module right on the bottom left corner of the dash when you open the cover. It looks like that hooks up to the diagonstic port. Which number do I use and how is it reversed/mixed up?

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Posted 09 May 2014 - 04:19 AM

Post #28 in this thread describes how to get the keypad code using the two keys that came with the car.  It also describes how to reverse the numbers.  I have not found the keypad code on any stickers under my dashboard.

 

The plastic card should have been in a pocket on the outside of the case that the Owner's Manual was in.


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Posted 09 May 2014 - 06:52 AM

It also says further on that the two keys just show you the key code and the card is not in any pockets. It is missing.

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Posted 09 May 2014 - 07:54 AM

It also says further on that the two keys just show you the key code and the card is not in any pockets. It is missing.

Thanks

It does NOT show you the key code.  It shows the default keypad code.  I have done it several times.  That is how I learned the numbers were displayed in reverse order.






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