Fusion Pet Peeves

[hybridbear]

And, APA doesn't determine how to park based on the curb. It only looks at the vehicle in front & behind. That's why it will hit the curb if the cars that it is using for reference are parked right on the curb. The system seems to assume that the cars it is using for reference are each parked 6-12 inches away from the curb. If they are any closer the system will steer the car right into the curb.

[Easy Rider]

Active park assist has to be able to draw a map of the entire available space to determine how to steer the car. All sensors are required to do that.

You can't turn off any of the APA sensors. You can turn off the front or rear manual parking sensors warnings.

Sorry I used the wrong term, I guess.

It is the front and rear manual alerts.

The front one goes off if you parked too close to something, even when you get back in and put it in reverse.

I don't understand the logic that says I need to be alerted to something in the FRONT when I am in reverse.

[hybridbear]

Sorry I used the wrong term, I guess.

It is the front and rear manual alerts.

The front one goes off if you parked too close to something, even when you get back in and put it in reverse.

I don't understand the logic that says I need to be alerted to something in the FRONT when I am in reverse.

It is so you don't hit something with the front of the car while backing up. Such as a pillar in a parking garage or the car parked in the space next to you at the store.

[Waldo]

Sorry I used the wrong term, I guess.

It is the front and rear manual alerts.

The front one goes off if you parked too close to something, even when you get back in and put it in reverse.

I don't understand the logic that says I need to be alerted to something in the FRONT when I am in reverse.

 

Sometimes when I go in reverse I also turn the steering wheel. That puts the front of the car closer to other objects that I might not notice while I'm looking out the rear window.

[Easy Rider]

OK, some testing is in order, I guess.

 

My gut feeling is that it is alarming on objects that are dead center in the front of the car.......but that impression might be completely wrong......as things like walls and bushes are also close to the corners at the same time.

[hybridbear]

OK, some testing is in order, I guess.

 

My gut feeling is that it is alarming on objects that are dead center in the front of the car.......but that impression might be completely wrong......as things like walls and bushes are also close to the corners at the same time.

It uses all the front sensors. Both the ones that look straight ahead and the ones on the side of the bumper that are used for parking. It warns you if any sensor gets close to another object.

[Easy Rider]

It uses all the front sensors. Both the ones that look straight ahead and the ones on the side of the bumper that are used for parking. It warns you if any sensor gets close to another object.

That's what I thought and I think it is pretty stupid to have the center front sensors active when moving backwards.

 

I guess the only solution is to back up slightly when stopping so that the object in front of me is not detected before I shut it off.

That way, it should not BEEP when I am backing out of the space unless there is something new to report.

[hybridbear]

That's what I thought and I think it is pretty stupid to have the center front sensors active when moving backwards.

 

I guess the only solution is to back up slightly when stopping so that the object in front of me is not detected before I shut it off.

That way, it should not BEEP when I am backing out of the space unless there is something new to report.

So your complaint is that when you park close to a wall or something in front of the car that the front sensors start beeping when you put it in reverse?

[acdii]

CTA is a PITA, always alerting about things that aren't even there. Backing into my car port, off it goes, backing out of my garage, off it goes. Backing into my parking space, off it goes. Majority of hte time there is nothing there, then when something IS there, it doesn't go off. The one in the 2010 was never like this, it actually worked when it was supposed to.

[Bella]

My solution to the Nav screen controls sensitivity Pet Peeves.

 

I purchased a tablet screen protector at the dollar store and cut it to fit. I got tired of looking at all the fingerprints on the screen, so I decided to try one of these. Well, as a bonus I found that it also cuts back on how sensitive the touch controls are. I can now reach for a button and only the one I press goes on. Hooray :love_shower: no more air going on when I just want to change the radio!

 

Hope this helps! :)

[Waldo]

It uses all the front sensors. Both the ones that look straight ahead and the ones on the side of the bumper that are used for parking. It warns you if any sensor gets close to another object.

 

No, it does not use the ones on the side. Those are a totally different type of sensor.used by the active park, they are not used by the park aid (beeping). But the park aid sensors do have a field of view beyond what is just directly in front. Just like the rear sensors will pick up the sides of my garage door, the front ones can pick up objects slightly to the side of the car.

 

As an aside, note that Ford has made vehicles with just front park aid (09-12 Lincoln MKS) that did not have active park or it's sensors and also makes vehicles with active park (Focus) that do not have the front park aid sensors.

[acdii]

 

No, it does not use the ones on the side. Those are a totally different type of sensor.used by the active park, they are not used by the park aid (beeping). But the park aid sensors do have a field of view beyond what is just directly in front. Just like the rear sensors will pick up the sides of my garage door, the front ones can pick up objects slightly to the side of the car.

 

As an aside, note that Ford has made vehicles with just front park aid (09-12 Lincoln MKS) that did not have active park or it's sensors and also makes vehicles with active park (Focus) that do not have the front park aid sensors.

Same with the Flex and MKT, has park assist but no front sensors. My mom has a 2009 MKS with the front sensors and no park assist, the thing about the MKS is you dont see the sensors in the bumpers like you do the other cars, in fact I have to take a look at the T, I dont recall seeing the sensors on it either for the backup and parking.

[Easy Rider]

So your complaint is that when you park close to a wall or something in front of the car that the front sensors start beeping when you put it in reverse?

Yes. Exactly.

That noise comes on coincident with the activation of the backup camera and the rear sensors.

The effect is that you wonder where the danger is and don't see any thing .....until you look at the dash and see the "front parking sensor" warning.

[hybridbear]

Yes. Exactly.

That noise comes on coincident with the activation of the backup camera and the rear sensors.

The effect is that you wonder where the danger is and don't see any thing .....until you look at the dash and see the "front parking sensor" warning.

The front sensors make a higher pitched beep. Perhaps with time your ears will learn to distinguish the higher pitched beep from the lower pitched beep which could help. I believe that when both front & back are detecting an object the beep you hear will be for whichever sensor is closest.

[Waldo]

Same with the Flex and MKT, has park assist but no front sensors. My mom has a 2009 MKS with the front sensors and no park assist, the thing about the MKS is you dont see the sensors in the bumpers like you do the other cars, in fact I have to take a look at the T, I dont recall seeing the sensors on it either for the backup and parking.

 

The MKT has the rear sensors cleverly hidden within the lower reflectors.

[Easy Rider]

The front sensors make a higher pitched beep. Perhaps with time your ears will learn to distinguish the higher pitched beep from the lower pitched beep which could help.

 

Thanks for the information but I doubt that will happen.

 

It would help MUCH more if it was designed with some semblance of logic......and had the front center sensors turned OFF when in reverse.

[razol]

I had only two minor issues:

 

The DRLs on US made Fusions are not enabled. I remedied this rather simply, by simply having the dealer program them to be on.

 

The second issue is that in heavy traffic the parking aid sensors will sometimes activate, then I get the beep beep beep every few seconds as if I am trying to park. Although driving in traffic in the DC area feels like parking, I am actually just commuting. I am not sure how Ford might fix this as to the car bumper to bumper traffic seems a lot like a parking scenario.

[Easy Rider]

Is it possible that you are closer than 12 inches to the car in front of you ? (guessing that is about the trigger distance for the front alarm)

 

If so, in my opinion, that problem is not with the design of the car. :)

[razol]

No, has nothing to do with the car in front of me, it is sensing the cars in the adjacent lane as they creep past me. I would never be so close to the care in front of me.

[razol]

I think that it is the outermost sensors on the side of the bumper that pick this up. When it happens the rear alert goes off first, then the front, until the car passes me. Once in a while it will also trigger the Vehicle Coming from Left alert in the info screen as well.

Edited August 8, 2014 by razol

[Easy Rider]

WOW. I can see how that would get old REAL quick.

I'm sure a lot of us drive in what would LOOK like heavy traffic about every time we approach a stoplight or sign and I don't remember anyone else here

commenting on that.

My only thought would be to turn the collision alert level down but it really sounds like you might have a defect of some kind.

[StopTheExcuses]

Ok, so a couple for me. I can't believe that a car with a sticker price of $35k has just a wire loom coming from the headliner to the rear view mirror. Even my 2007 pathfinder has a plastic, square sleeve. I do realize that if you get the ACC and RSW you get the box, but it should come with some kind of covering instead of loom. Also, I also can't believe a car with as much technology as the fusion does not have HID head lights. I realize Ford has to cut costs somewhere but surprising nonetheless.

[wmpwi]

Passenger seat. My wife can't see out of the windows. Needs to be 6 way power. The other thing that drives me nuts is the word hybrid on the door. It looks like it should line up with the door bottom edge rather that tilted up toward the back. I always want to straighten it like a crooked picture.

Edited August 21, 2014 by wmpwi

[Hybrider]

...The other thing that drives me nuts is the word hybrid on the door. It looks like it should line up with the door bottom edge rather that tilted up toward the back. I always want to straighten it like a crooked picture.

 

The OCD part of me agrees with you, but the "HYBRID" emblem does seem to be aligned to the crease right below it.

[wmpwi]

I know but I think it was the wrong choice. I actually considered removing them. I don't think the crease is pronounced enough to help me appreciate their intent.