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2013 Nissan Altima

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#21 OFFLINE   revelated


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Posted 20 May 2013 - 10:46 PM

Isn't the 2013 Altima a redesign though? At least in a lot of aspects. I know the EPA rating went up for the '13s over its predecessors. 


It's still not a more efficient car.  Efficient cars don't sound like tractors.  Thus why the 98 Mustangs were so fuel inefficient.




Your point addresses the range, not the mileage.  As for reasons for not getting the gasoline Titanium, the major road that my wife and I need to access to get to the  interstate has a speed limit of 55mph, and it's at least 10 miles to the interstate. That's perfect for a hybrid. That being said, I'd say 70 percent of her driving will be on local roads or the road I mentioned.  Hybrid for the win.


Mileage = Range.  They're one in the same.  Miles per gallon is literally what range you can get on each gallon of gas multipled by the number of gallons your tank can hold.  Simple arithmetic - the larger the tank, the greater the mileage.  The greater the mileage, the wider/longer the range before you need to fill up.  You're arguing semantics here.


Bottom line: Altima rules MPG on long stretches because it has more gas to do so.  That does not make it more efficient. 


By that logic, a kid who brings 4 different types of calculators and an iPad to math class is more mathematically inclined because they can punch up the answer faster than other kids who use pen and paper, or who only have a basic calculator.  Negative.


As for your trip you're confusing me now.  Previously you said "...people are getting about 36-37mpg at a highway speed of 75, which, is actually less than the Altima."  Now, you're saying that just because it takes a bit to get to the highway (I'm assuming the highway has a decent speed speed limit) and just because of the local road driving, that the hybrid would be more logical.  So either you don't spend a lot of time on the highway/freeway, or something isn't adding up.  If you don't spend a lot of time on the freeway then what's it matter that the Altima does better "...at a highway speed of 75"?

If I spend 80% of my time going less than 60, a hybrid makes sense and an Altima is moot; shouldn't even be in the discussion and the mileage of the Fusion Hybrid should be forefront.

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#22 OFFLINE   Aquineas


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Posted 21 May 2013 - 06:43 AM

If you don't understand the difference between mileage and range, then there's no point attempting to continue in a rational discussion. Carry on without me.

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#23 OFFLINE   rico567


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Posted 10 June 2013 - 07:26 AM

Yes- by that logic a CadillacEscalade with a 35 gallon gas tank getting 15 mpg gets the same "mileage" as a hybrid that has a 13 gallon tank and gets 40 mpg.....when it's obvious that I'm spending only about a third the money on gas to operate the hybrid. This is the difference in "miles per gallon."


I've been driving for 50 years, and "mileage" and "miles per gallon" have always been synonymous to me, and in my reading and discussions with other car owners. "Miles per tank" would be an appropriate term for how far you can go on a fillup.

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Posted 10 June 2013 - 07:27 AM


It's still not a more efficient car.  Efficient cars don't sound like tractors.  Thus why the 98 Mustangs were so fuel inefficient.



They're very different scenarios. The Altima has a CVT which tend to sound like that. 

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Posted 10 June 2013 - 11:06 AM

You really need to look at it as not miles per gallon, but gallons used per trip.   Example, say you drive 45 miles, your vehicle gets 15 MPG, you used 3 gallons @$4, so $12 for the trip. Now drive a car that gets 45 MPG, you drove the same 45 miles, used 1 gallon, cost $4.  Go enjoy an $8 lunch. 

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#26 OFFLINE   46stang


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Posted 19 June 2013 - 09:43 PM


It's still not a more efficient car.  Efficient cars don't sound like tractors.  Thus why the 98 Mustangs were so fuel inefficient.


Hey, I have a 98 GT mustang and it gets 21-22 mpg. That's mostly highway but I wouldn't call it fuel inefficient. :shift:


I rented a 12 Altima for a week and was impressed with the car and the mileage. BUt after my wife and I drove the FFH it wasn't close.

Technically the FFH is my wife's car but I like the car so much I think I drive it more than she does. lol.

Edited by 46stang, 19 June 2013 - 09:51 PM.

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