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#41 OFFLINE   hybridbear

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Posted 24 February 2013 - 09:11 AM

I think it is part of the adaptive cruise package.  Here's a brochure on it:  http://media.ford.co...tive_Cruise.pdf

 

There's a collision warning system that will alarm when you get too close to the car in front of you that has slowed down suddenly.  It will also go off if the car in front of you slows to make a right turn and you stay close to get around it.  I've had it go off a couple of times.  

 

So, from reading that info, it sounds like drafting could still be dangerous because if the semi slammed on the brakes, even with the warning and this system there's still the potential to hit the truck

 

Thanks for te info elle. I would have loved to get that option over the moonroof that I have.

 

It would have been a nice feature to have, but I believe it required getting MFT which we didn't want. When we test drove a C-Max with MFT and a Fusion with the conventional buttons we decided that we just wanted the conventional buttons. Mainly because we did not want a back up camera. We both found it to be distracting and hard to use. So to get ACC we would have been required to spend $900 for MFT which we didn't want and then another $2k or something like that for the Tech Pkg with BLIS and ACC...oh well, maybe on our next car in 10 years...


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#42 OFFLINE   elle

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Posted 24 February 2013 - 10:29 AM

So, from reading that info, it sounds like drafting could still be dangerous because if the semi slammed on the brakes, even with the warning and this system there's still the potential to hit the truck

 

Yes, it's just a warning.  The ACC gives you all sorts of disclaimers and warnings in the manual about continuing to remain attentive, because it will shut off if your speed goes below a certain point, and the system expects you to be there to take over!  



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Posted 24 February 2013 - 10:50 AM

 
Drafting is dangerous, and a friend of mine who is a semi driver says that the semi drivers don't like it because they're 1) worried about you running into them and 2) if they're carrying expensive cargo they might be worried that you're part of a plan to attack and steal their cargo.
 

I couldn't agree more. Drafting is just plain stupid in my mind. it goes against everything you are taught in defensive driving. A few pennies saved Is not worth risking my life or that of my loved ones.
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Posted 24 February 2013 - 11:58 AM

The ACC will apply brakes and alert you to collision, and pump up the brake pressure so when you apply the brakes, the force is greater for a panic stop than if you just slam them on normally.   What I found that works well is setting the bars to 3 on ACC, and follow a flat bed. It keeps you at the recommended 2 second mark, yet still provides just enough slipstream to draft from.

 

In regards to drafting, you do not need to be right on the back end of a truck to benefit from it, if you ever notice, when behind a truck, there is a buffet zone, it is usually about 2.5 seconds behind, when you get to 1.75 to 2 seconds behind, it disappears, and you are right in the zone.  Flat beds work the best because the air flow is linear off the back, and not turbulent like off a box.  These are where I got the best MPG out of any car.  Using ACC set at the right distance keeps you in that zone yet far enough back in the even of the truck slamming on his brakes.


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Posted 24 February 2013 - 12:35 PM

I couldn't agree more. Drafting is just plain stupid in my mind. it goes against everything you are taught in defensive driving. A few pennies saved Is not worth risking my life or that of my loved ones.

That and the cost of a ticket.


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Posted 24 February 2013 - 02:12 PM

Drafting: you will never see me traveling the same speed as trucks.
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Posted 24 February 2013 - 03:15 PM

I have owned many cars since the EPA started requiring MPG estimates.
I find it ironic that I have never achieved the published numbers until this car.
The reason has to be that I am getting real-time feedback on how economical I am driving. That plus I don't live in a cold place. It may all go to pot when the A/C season is here.
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Posted 25 February 2013 - 10:16 AM

I have owned many cars since the EPA started requiring MPG estimates.
I find it ironic that I have never achieved the published numbers until this car.
The reason has to be that I am getting real-time feedback on how economical I am driving. That plus I don't live in a cold place. It may all go to pot when the A/C season is here.

 

Glad to hear that you're getting such good gas mileage. Hopefully the A/C demands won't be so high as to lower the gas mileage too much. And the ruby red color is very nice. We almost decided to spend the extra money to get that color


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Posted 25 February 2013 - 02:02 PM

Here is a very balanced article about the fuel economy in the Ford Hybrids

 

http://blogs.wsj.com...oogle_news_blog


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Posted 25 February 2013 - 02:12 PM

 
Glad to hear that you're getting such good gas mileage. Hopefully the A/C demands won't be so high as to lower the gas mileage too much. And the ruby red color is very nice. We almost decided to spend the extra money to get that color

I got the 'poor mans' model. Just a base car with only two options: Outrageously expensive floor mats and the red paint. I bought it off the dealers lot. If I had ordered it, I would probably not have paid the extra for the red paint. But every comment I get about the car is about the great paint job.

I am getting fond of the Sirius satellite radio. Hope I can get a good price when it expires. I also love that I put all my favorite music on a USB memory stick and shuffle play it. The Sync hands off Bluetooth phone support works pretty good also. This base model car has a lot of good features included.
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Posted 26 February 2013 - 10:08 PM

Started a 1000mi drive to FL today.  Got up to 42 running at 70, but only 38 at 62.  My guess is the shutter aero is kicking in higher than I'd expected.  Else I'm confused?


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Posted 26 February 2013 - 10:35 PM

Started a 1000mi drive to FL today.  Got up to 42 running at 70, but only 38 at 62.  My guess is the shutter aero is kicking in higher than I'd expected.  Else I'm confused?

Where in Fl are you headed? That's pretty good MPGs. Keep us posted.
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Posted 27 February 2013 - 09:18 AM

Started a 1000mi drive to FL today.  Got up to 42 running at 70, but only 38 at 62.  My guess is the shutter aero is kicking in higher than I'd expected.  Else I'm confused?

Wow thats really good at 70!  Usually its the other way around. 


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Posted 28 February 2013 - 08:41 AM

I think having the car sit on the dealers lot with the 2013 sticker on the window skeered it!  I got 39.3 MPG this morning. Yesterday it was about 37.5 combined. At least 4 MPG better than it has been. Still not as high as it should be, but still better than it was!


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Posted 28 February 2013 - 09:03 AM

I couldn't agree more. Drafting is just plain stupid in my mind. it goes against everything you are taught in defensive driving. A few pennies saved Is not worth risking my life or that of my loved ones.
Have you ever seen what happens when a truck "throws a tread" (happens frequently) and someone is drafting? It aint pretty... And 2 seconds does not help! That pretty front end of the FFH aint going to be pretty no more!
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Posted 28 February 2013 - 12:19 PM

So I haven't had this car for a week yet.  And today the temperature was a bit milder than it has been lately (1*C or 34*F).  I had the heater on at the start, but then turned it off because it was getting too warm.  I drove about 63KM (39M) to work this morning and got 5.1L/100km (46MPG).  I'm really starting to get the hang of driving this car.  After seeing that number this morning once I shut the car off I knew I won't have any issues achieving the EPA numbers.  One thing I'm not sure about achieving is the EnerGuide ratings here in Canada.  The estimates here are 4.0L/100km city (59MPG) and 4.1/100km Hwy (57MPG).  Anyways we will see once Spring is here.


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Posted 28 February 2013 - 12:53 PM

So I haven't had this car for a week yet.  And today the temperature was a bit milder than it has been lately (1*C or 34*F).  I had the heater on at the start, but then turned it off because it was getting too warm.  I drove about 63KM (39M) to work this morning and got 5.1L/100km (46MPG).  I'm really starting to get the hang of driving this car.  After seeing that number this morning once I shut the car off I knew I won't have any issues achieving the EPA numbers.  One thing I'm not sure about achieving is the EnerGuide ratings here in Canada.  The estimates here are 4.0L/100km city (59MPG) and 4.1/100km Hwy (57MPG).  Anyways we will see once Spring is here.

 

Looking at your signature yours sure took a long time to arrive. Why did it take until February for delivery of a car that was built in October?

 

Glad you're getting such good mileage up north in Canada (even though you are actually south of Minneapolis lol)


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Posted 28 February 2013 - 01:25 PM

Looking at your signature yours sure took a long time to arrive. Why did it take until February for delivery of a car that was built in October?

 

Glad you're getting such good mileage up north in Canada (even though you are actually south of Minneapolis lol)

My car was on Vacation in Mexico for 3.5 months! LOL

 

On a serious note, it was stuck in TBD land, and still to this day we don't know why my car was held up since Oct.  Speculation is that it had something to do with the stop ship problem to sort out the 1.6L engine recall.  Mine was placed in the back of the pack.  To this day, I think there's still some people stuck in TBD hell back on the Blue Oval Forums.  I see that some people think that earlier builds have issues with mileage.  Clearly that can't be the reason since mine was built in October and achieving decent fuel economy.  My window sticker shows that my Hybrid was #181 off the assembly line.  Kinda glad I wasn't #1... lol


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Posted 28 February 2013 - 01:48 PM

My car was on Vacation in Mexico for 3.5 months! LOL

 

On a serious note, it was stuck in TBD land, and still to this day we don't know why my car was held up since Oct.  Speculation is that it had something to do with the stop ship problem to sort out the 1.6L engine recall.  Mine was placed in the back of the pack.  To this day, I think there's still some people stuck in TBD hell back on the Blue Oval Forums.  I see that some people think that earlier builds have issues with mileage.  Clearly that can't be the reason since mine was built in October and achieving decent fuel economy.  My window sticker shows that my Hybrid was #181 off the assembly line.  Kinda glad I wasn't #1... lol

 

I believe all the users on here with mileage issues (Fynack, acdii & nmadole) to name a few all have cars that were built the same week. I don't recall exactly when their cars were built, but I believe they were built in late October or early November. We test drove the first FFH in MN back in October and got 46.5 MPG in about 100 miles of driving. That car was built 9/27/12 according to ETIS


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Posted 28 February 2013 - 01:53 PM

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