Snow Tire and New WHEEL advice please?

[100NU]

If you go to Tire Rack or Discount Tire Direct and do a search for wheels for either car, the list that comes up is exactly the same for either one. The wheels are interchangeable between the 2 cars. Like I said before, as long as the hub hole on the Galant wheel fits over the hub on the Fusion, you can use the Galant wheels on it. Its easy enough to find out.

 

Hi SEL,

 

That is what I did. I found on Tirerack that I have 16" winter tire suggested by Tirerack for 2010 Fusion SEL. That gave me some confidence. I did not want to spend too much money on Fusion as I just replaced all four tires on Explorer.

 

I intend to out Gallant wheel son Fusion once I am back from my vacation (end of Oct).

 

Thanks

[Waldo]

I tried searching on web for TPMS but there are so many options available and I am not sure which one to go for. I would highly appreciate if someone here can recommend one.

 

To be clear, there are not many options available, there are only two options: the factory sensors for a 2010 Fusion or drive with the TPMS light on. The only other choice you have is where to buy them.

[bbf2530]

If you go to Tire Rack or Discount Tire Direct and do a search for wheels for either car, the list that comes up is exactly the same for either one. The wheels are interchangeable between the 2 cars. Like I said before, as long as the hub hole on the Galant wheel fits over the hub on the Fusion, you can use the Galant wheels on it. Its easy enough to find out.

 

 

Hi 2010SEL. :D With all due respect, I sense an edge to the tone in your post, and do not understand why. It is not as "easy enough to find out" for a person who has already admitted that they are new and not extremely knowledgeable about things automotive. 100NU has already mentioned that he is a novice concerning automotive mechanics. And I assume we are all here to try and help people. So, since 100NU has made it clear that he is new to all of this and does not know much about cars, I am recommending he err on the side of caution.

 

Just because The Tire Rack lists the same wheel for both cars, does not mean the wheels are the same offset, hub bore (as you did mention), etc.. Wheel manufacturers do make all different size wheels, utilizing different offsets and hub rings to make a universal fit. Did you happen to check for offset? And since he is new to this, it would be easier for him to ask a professional than dismount a wheel from his Fusion to mount a Galant wheel then remount he Fusion wheel.

 

Until we definitively know the hub bore and offsets, we are only guessing. And I do not like to give advice on guesses.

 

In addition, since he is new to this it would be quite a fair assumption that 100NU does not own a torque wrench to properly re-torque the lug-nuts when he remounts his Fusion wheel. He probably does not even know that the proper torque rating is 100 lb.ft.. So there are many ways a novice can innocently damage his car and/or cause problems for himself by remounting his wheel on his own.

 

Nothing I have stated in my replies directly contradicts anything you have posted. I simply think that 100NU should seek the advice of a local tire professional who can help him "hands-on" this first time, until he learns the ropes. I would prefer he do that than damage his car.

 

We are all here to help each other, and my advice will always err on the side of caution.

 

And I am certainly not trying to give you a hard time. We are simply approaching this question from two different viewpoints. That does not make one of us right and the other wrong, it is just two different ways of approaching the problem. You are correct that he could find this out for himself (as many of us could). I am advising that since he is new to all of this, if he has any doubt he should seek professional advice from a tire shop to minimize the chance of doing damage to his car. Both viewpoints can be correct. Simple as that.

 

Hope you understand.

 

Good luck. :beerchug:

[bbf2530]

Hi SEL,

 

That is what I did. I found on Tirerack that I have 16" winter tire suggested by Tirerack for 2010 Fusion SEL. That gave me some confidence. I did not want to spend too much money on Fusion as I just replaced all four tires on Explorer.

 

I intend to out Gallant wheel son Fusion once I am back from my vacation (end of Oct).

 

Thanks

 

 

Hi 100NU. :D I think you still misunderstand. We all know, and have also informed you previously that the winter tire you have is just fine for the Fusion.

 

It is the wheels from the Galant that are possibly in question. You need to be sure that those wheels are compatible with your Fusion. I am not saying they are not compatible (we have no complete information either way), I am simply advising you find out for sure.

 

You can do that two ways: First, as 2010SEL stated you can remove a Fusion wheel and try to mount the Galant wheel to see if it fits correctly. If you feel confident enough to do that properly then give it a shot. Remember to check for proper hub bore fit and proper offset so that the wheel is not too close to the suspension components on the inside, or too close to the fender lip on the outside. Also be sure that the Fusion lug nuts are compatible with the Galant wheel.

 

Or you can take one Galant wheel to your local tire shop and ask them if it fits.

 

But again, your winter tires are fine, it is the wheels that are the wild card.

 

Concerning the TPMS sensors. As Waldo stated, it is either install them or look at the warning light all winter long. Since you are new to this, I don't think you should try to purchase these on EBay or other sites like that. You stand a good chance of getting the wrong sensors or being ripped off. So this would be my recommendation: You want the sensors, correct? You already know how much your Ford Dealer will charge, so call the Tire Rack and Discount Tire and see how much they charge for the sensors. Then check with your local tire shop that you trust. Purchase them from the one that is least expensive.

 

You will need to take the wheels and tires to a tire shop anyway to have the sensors installed. This is why I advise that you just settle all of your questions concerning everything by going there with one wheel and asking them if they fit. If they do, great and you can go back to have them mounted when you are ready. You will need to go there to have the sensors installed anyway. In this way, all of your worries can be allayed in one stop.

 

Just my opinion.

 

Again, let us know how things work out and good luck.

 

Whatever you decide to do, good luck. :beerchug:

[2010SEL]

If you want to over-complicate things, that's OK with me. This stuff isn't rocket science. Really, it isn't. I said the wheels were the same regarding bolt circle and offset, according to both Tire Rack and Discount Tire Direct. Anyways, offset isn't all that critical. Plus or minus 5mm isn't going to matter, unless you are tying to squeeze the biggest tires possible on a vehicle and are worried about clearance. Have someone qualified try the Mits wheels on the car. I'm sure it'll work. Get hub-centric rings if necessary. Again, have someone qualified figure it out.

[bbf2530]

Again, have someone qualified figure it out.

 

Hi 2010SEL. :D No over-complication at all. You and I understand wheel fitment quite well. However, 100NU stated upfront that he does not. So until he catches up to the learning curve, it may as well be rocket science to him.

 

Even torquing the lugnuts correctly takes a knowledge and tools which he does not have at this point (no offense intended 100NU, we were all beginners at one point in time).

 

"Have someone qualified figure it out." That is exactly what I was recommending to 100NU (along with added information to try and help him understand things).

 

I am glad we have come to an agreement. :grouphug:

 

Good luck. :beerchug:

[100NU]

Thank you guys,

 

To be honest, I dont have any knowledge of cars. I always get my winter tires changed at Ford dealer. I am learning for sure on this forum.

 

As I said, I am leaving for vacation next week and will do tire change once I am back in the month end.

 

I am for sure going to put TPMS as I always want to keep everything in working order.

[Rodeo]

Simple answers or complicated (more detailed), I'd rather get two good answers then none at all. My point is this place is a great forum to learn things and I myself have learned allot in the short few weeks I have been here. Credit the Members and Moderators for that. It's an ongoing process. (learning that is.)

[pcsgrp35se]

Having gone thru all this, I got a set of 17" fusion rims, git the tpms sensors on ebay (along with at reset tool) and then went to costco to special order Xice2 winter tires 225-50-17 for $149 each. Costco charged $15 for mounting and another $14/tire for putting the tpms sensors on (a rip off but they said if I had problems learning the sensors bring it back and they would fix it). The tire rack price for the tires was $10 less but there was about a $40 charge for delivery and most of the tire rack mounting recommendations were about $20/tire plus the added charge for the tpms install . With costco, I got a $70 coupon from costco and another $70 rebate from Michaline so I basically got 1 tire for free.

[100NU]

Hi guys,

 

I am back from vacation and looking to change the tires now. I went to nearby Goodyear dealer and this is what he has suggested me.

 

Tires:

Goodyear Ultra Grip Ice P215/50/R17

 

Wheels

Fast model F66-77653

http://www.fastwheels.ca/component/page,sh...mart/Itemid,62/

 

He has offered me all four tires and wheel installed for Can $ 1380.00 which seems to be good price. He even offered to install TPMS a reason labour while I will have to pay for the TPMS @ 53.00.

 

I have noticed that offset on Fusion 2010 (as advised) is +44 while on Fast website offset of suggested wheel is 38.

 

Should I go for these rims and tires?

[Waldo]

Hi guys,

 

I am back from vacation and looking to change the tires now. I went to nearby Goodyear dealer and this is what he has suggested me.

 

Tires:

Goodyear Ultra Grip Ice P215/50/R17

 

A 215/50 is too small, it won't have the load capacity of the stock tire and will be very vulnerable to pothole damage. You really should look for a 16in package with a 205/60-16, I'm sure it will be cheaper as well.

[twiggy144]

A 215/50 is too small, it won't have the load capacity of the stock tire and will be very vulnerable to pothole damage. You really should look for a 16in package with a 205/60-16, I'm sure it will be cheaper as well.

 

 

+1. My vote goes for 16 ".

[100NU]

Thanks for the reply guys.

 

Actually, I have four old winter tires that would fit this car well. I did check the specs on tirerack and I have the specified tires.

 

Now, what about offset? The wheels I am looking at (link is posted above) have an offset of 38 mm instead of original 44 mm.

 

Does it affect the driving / performance a lot?

[bbf2530]

Thanks for the reply guys.

 

Actually, I have four old winter tires that would fit this car well. I did check the specs on tirerack and I have the specified tires.

 

Now, what about offset? The wheels I am looking at (link is posted above) have an offset of 38 mm instead of original 44 mm.

 

Does it affect the driving / performance a lot?

 

Hi 100NU. :D Either of the 17 inch wheels (7" or 8") with the proper lug spacing (5x114.3) will work.

 

Good luck. :beerchug: