Ordered 2019 FFH Titanium

[thavil]

I haven't posted in a while but felt the need to because I just ordered a 2019 FFH Titanium with Velocity Blue exterior and Ebony interior. I haven't seen any other posts about the MY19. It should come in within the next 2 months. My 2013 FFH FE has been great during the 98,000 miles I have driven it but I always wanted more tech in my vehicle. My current 2013 FFH FE only has the leather package, doesn't even have MyFord Touch. I've had the itch for the past few years and now is the time to upgrade.

 

For those that don't know, Ford has really scaled back on how many different configurations you can get on a FFH. The Titanium has every feature available and they no longer offer a Platinum.

 

I think I did pretty good on how much I will be paying:

 

$35,380 = MSRP

$32,521 = My quote

$2603 = Tax, Tags, Processing

- $3500 = Current Incentives now locked in

$31,623 = Purchase price

 

Now to play the game, once the car arrives, with the Finance guy on the ESP (Ford Warranty) price. For what warranty I want ($0 deductible, 7 years and 125.000 miles) Flood Ford is offering $2200. My local Finance guy choked the last time I showed him a Flood Ford quote but still matched it to get some commission out of the ESP purchase.

 

[Cobra348]

I brought some of this up here. While I'd love a '19 Titanium in Agate Black with Russet interior (close to my '15 in colors), I still owe on my current car and I do not want a moonroof. That said, if I were to order one, it would be a SEL in Rich Copper with the Light Stone interior.

 

Pretty good on the final tally for the car. And Flood has been good to me with a couple Fiestas and my FFHs. And you're right about dealers choking when they see the numbers.

 

ADDED: Ford Build & Price pages now do not show the interior colors on SEL. I can only assume it is now only in black. I'll need to check with my dealer to confirm or deny. But if black is only interior choice then I'm done with Ford.

Edited November 5, 2018 by Cobra348

[thavil]

Cobra - I missed your post for some reason, thanks for sharing the link to it. Your links inside of your post would have been helpful to me. I've been doing heavy research the last 2 weeks and just knew I was missing something on the different options available.

 

I agree with you on the moonroof, I really don't want one either but I don't have a choice now if I want the Titanium. Also agree that it's hard to tell what interior options are on the SEL. If I need to go back to the dealer for any reason before delivery, I will ask them.

[Cobra348]

The 2 lines in my sig just just before "my additions" are all the options I paid for on my '17. If you look at '19 models virtually all of that is standard in SEL or Titanium with some standard on SE but can be gotten with an optional package. Seriously ... take Nav off the SEL and add back the heat wheel and that's my current car!

 

I really feel a bit ummmmm ... shafted ... yeah, shafted. I'm paying for stuff that has been wrapped into the base package. I feel I should get a dadgum rebate or something. Just made a payment ... only one more to go and the '17 is free and clear.

 

Another thing sort of preventing getting a '19 is my warranty. I went with Flood for a 6/100 $200 deductible setup and as of now I have 44 mo/60K miles to go before that dies. It's a pian to get refunds for unused portions ... mainly time and paperwork.

Edited November 5, 2018 by Cobra348

[Waldo]

The 2 lines in my sig just just before "my additions" are all the options I paid for on my '17. If you look at '19 models virtually all of that is standard in SEL or Titanium with some standard on SE but can be gotten with an optional package. Seriously ... take Nav off the SEL and add back the heat wheel and that's my current car!

 

I really feel a bit ummmmm ... shafted ... yeah, shafted. I'm paying for stuff that has been wrapped into the base package. I feel I should get a dadgum rebate or something. Just made a payment ... only one more to go and the '17 is free and clear.

 

Another thing sort of preventing getting a '19 is my warranty. I went with Flood for a 6/100 $200 deductible setup and as of now I have 44 mo/60K miles to go before that dies. It's a pian to get refunds for unused portions ... mainly time and paperwork.

 

They just renamed the SE Luxury Package as SEL. They didn't really make anything "standard", they just gave a different name to the same package. The SEL costs more than the SE, so it's not like it's all of a sudden free.

 

And Medium Stone interior is still available on SE or SEL.

[Cobra348]

Agree but when the base price of a vehicle includes "stuff" that *I* for one paid extra for it sorta twists the knickers a bit. Doesn't matter that it's renamed - I and others paid extra for the stuff that now is in a LOWER price. C'mon ... that has to make even you go "wth?"

 

Glad medium stone is available ... it just was not on the site when I looked. I even closed browser, scrubbed cookies, etc and tried again. Site glitch I suppose.

[Waldo]

Agree but when the base price of a vehicle includes "stuff" that *I* for one paid extra for it sorta twists the knickers a bit. Doesn't matter that it's renamed - I and others paid extra for the stuff that now is in a LOWER price. C'mon ... that has to make even you go "wth?"

 

Glad medium stone is available ... it just was not on the site when I looked. I even closed browser, scrubbed cookies, etc and tried again. Site glitch I suppose.

 

The 2019 SE costs ~$2000 more than the 2017 SE, so again, not like it's all of a sudden free. Agreed that like for like the new one is a bit cheaper, but that's what happens when you add volume to the features. You can look back in the history of the automotive industry and all kinds of features that started out as optional - like ABS brakes, power windows, air conditioning, airbags and all that stuff was more expensive when it was optional. But then it eventually became standard and got cheaper.

[Cobra348]

 

The 2019 SE costs ~$2000 more than the 2017 SE, so again, not like it's all of a sudden free. Agreed that like for like the new one is a bit cheaper, but that's what happens when you add volume to the features. You can look back in the history of the automotive industry and all kinds of features that started out as optional - like ABS brakes, power windows, air conditioning, airbags and all that stuff was more expensive when it was optional. But then it eventually became standard and got cheaper.

Waldo ... early on in the '19 model year, I looked up the numbers. Sources were a tri-fold sales brochure showing options, etc. I build a '19 SEL online. Without incentives or tax, the 2019 SEL (without moonroof) is $2100 less than what I paid on the '17. I used the window sticker from the '17 to check it.

[Waldo]

But the 2019 SEL does not have Park Assist, so subtract that $995 and the difference is only $1100.

Edited November 14, 2018 by Waldo

[thavil]

It's finally here, picked it up last night. Now to sit in the car with the manual and figure every feature out. My 2013 FFH didn't have any tech in it so this will be a huge learning curve. What a difference having LED headlights now, so much brighter and whiter than the halogens on my '13.

[md13ffhguy]

^^^ That's super - enjoy!

[billford]

It's finally here, picked it up last night. Now to sit in the car with the manual and figure every feature out. My 2013 FFH didn't have any tech in it so this will be a huge learning curve. What a difference having LED headlights now, so much brighter and whiter than the halogens on my '13.

 

Nice car.

The 2019 is supposed to be the last year for the Fusion.

Maybe it will be a collectors item one day...

[thavil]

I had the new '19 FFH windows tinted to the state limit of 35% yesterday. Love the look with the Velocity Blue paint. Front and rear window vent visors (AVS) on their way from Amazon.

 

Since I haven't driven another FFH other than my '13, I'm not sure I like the response from the new EcoSelect setting. With Eco on, it does get better mpg's but the throttle response from a stop is almost dangerous. It's in the manual that the car will have a softer acceleration but until I get used to it, not liking it yet. I do like the increased deceleration when coasting though.