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So, I need a new transmission.


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#1 OFFLINE   md13ffhguy

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Posted 05 September 2017 - 08:40 PM

2013 with 102k miles... Yes, 2k over the warranty on the transmission. Seems to be similar to what was described in this thread:
http://fordfusionhyb...ud-whine/page-1

The only potential good part of the story is that I had it in at the dealer for a recall at 99k miles at the end of July, and also told them that I had begun to hear a noise from the transmission that was very subtle, but definitely not right to my ears. They checked it out and said it was nothing - said everything was normal. I knew it wasn't. It got progressively louder through August. Took it in again this morning, took a ride with a tech, and of course, yeah, there's some issue with a bearing... Needs a new transmission. They did note that I had it in before the warranty expired, and said they'd check with Ford to see what can be done.

Stay tuned.

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#2 OFFLINE   mwr

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Posted 06 September 2017 - 12:55 AM

Since you told them about the problem while in warranty, I wouldn't take "out of warranty" for an answer.



#3 OFFLINE   ptjones

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Posted 06 September 2017 - 09:12 AM

Good luck on the trans, I had mine replaced at 98k mi.   I knew the trans was going to go bad because I was monitoring Trans Fluid temps and it was going up and the Dealer said they couldn't do anything about it until it failed. So I spent $2,500 to extend my warranty to 132k mi. and as it turned out I didn't need it, but at least I didn't have to worry about. it. :) I have 66k mi. on the new one so far. :)

 

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Edited by ptjones, 06 September 2017 - 09:13 AM.

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#4 OFFLINE   md13ffhguy

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Posted 06 September 2017 - 06:15 PM

Since you told them about the problem while in warranty, I wouldn't take "out of warranty" for an answer.

Yes, I plan to stand my ground on this.


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#5 OFFLINE   md13ffhguy

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Posted 06 September 2017 - 06:23 PM

Good luck on the trans, I had mine replaced at 98k mi.   I knew the trans was going to go bad because I was monitoring Trans Fluid temps and it was going up and the Dealer said they couldn't do anything about it until it failed. So I spent $2,500 to extend my warranty to 132k mi. and as it turned out I didn't need it, but at least I didn't have to worry about. it. :) I have 66k mi. on the new one so far. :)

 

Paul 

Thanks. When I called the dealer yesterday, my service advisor said he wanted a "transmission guy" to ride with me to hear the problem. Before I left (and after he told me I'd need a new transmission), he mentioned that he wished he'd had one of those guys check it out when I was there a month ago...


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Posted 07 September 2017 - 11:23 AM

Looking at some of the Ford Technical bulletins, I am wondering if I am unlikely to run into transmissions problems, since mine was built in June 2014.  The original bulletin covered cars built through January 2013, but then I see a revised bulletin that included cars built into 2015.

 

Does anyone know when Ford finally fixed the CVT problem?



#7 OFFLINE   ptjones

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Posted 07 September 2017 - 01:03 PM

The best way to test the trans is to put it up on a rack and have someone in the car speeding up and then letting off the throttle.  You can hear the rattling in the gears.

 

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Posted 07 September 2017 - 08:13 PM

Looking at some of the Ford Technical bulletins, I am wondering if I am unlikely to run into transmissions problems, since mine was built in June 2014.  The original bulletin covered cars built through January 2013, but then I see a revised bulletin that included cars built into 2015.

 

Does anyone know when Ford finally fixed the CVT problem?

No! Ford has been completely silent about which cars may be affected. If there's a date on the revised bulletin out to 2015 you'll have to assume the problem may occur on any car built before then. It's not a driving safety issue so they won't issue a recall. They're waiting for the warranties to expire so then the owner will be on the hook.

These Japanese Aisin "type" transmissions that Ford brought the manufacture of in-house for the 2013+ models should last a very long time as there's little to wear in them. Pre 2013 transmission failures are very rare as are Toyota hybrid transmissions. In 50 years you ought to be able to salvage a perfectly serviceable hybrid transmission from the unrecognizable rusty hulk of most Ford/Toyota hybrids. Ford screwed up big time. They probably tried to save $3 on a bearing from an Asian supplier.


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#9 OFFLINE   ptjones

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Posted 08 September 2017 - 09:40 AM

Someone was suggesting that it was a heat treating problem which makes it very difficult to determine which ones are going to fail.  Some failed at 25K mi and others over a 100k mi., also high % of HWY driving seems to have higher % of Trans failures. ;(

 

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Posted 09 September 2017 - 02:25 PM

Another factor maybe that the energi has an electric pump for trans lubrication and cooling and the regular hybrid does not, it only lubes and cools when the engine is running. 



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Posted 09 September 2017 - 03:13 PM

Another factor maybe that the energi has an electric pump for trans lubrication and cooling and the regular hybrid does not, it only lubes and cools when the engine is running. 

That is true, they do have the same Trans Cooler and the highest temps I have seen has been 203*F with Center and lower Grill Covers on and OT at 100*F.  From what I have seen the TF temp. verys with OT. Removing lower Grill Cover will lower TF temps by 5-10*F and WT by 10-15*F.  There has to be some transfer of heat from ICE to Trans, but it doesn't seem like much. 

 

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Posted 13 September 2017 - 08:11 PM

It's been over a week, and no word from the dealer, so I called today to check. Service advisor said the Ford people he talks to about warranty are in Florida, so Irma... Well, I hope they're all ok! My car can wait, at least a little while. The noise gets rougher and louder. I only hope it continues to get me where I'm going.

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#13 OFFLINE   ptjones

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Posted 14 September 2017 - 10:55 AM

It's been over a week, and no word from the dealer, so I called today to check. Service advisor said the Ford people he talks to about warranty are in Florida, so Irma... Well, I hope they're all ok! My car can wait, at least a little while. The noise gets rougher and louder. I only hope it continues to get me where I'm going.

I haven't heard of anyone actually have a trans stop working. I went around a 1k mi. before I had mine fixed. :)

 

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