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Info on transmissions (eCVT) that have failed


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#1 OFFLINE   Automate

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Posted 27 July 2015 - 12:46 PM

Ford has told owners that Cmaxs built between Aug 8, 2012 and Jun 17, 2014 and Fusions Hybrids built around that time with eCVT transmissions have failed due to a manufacturing problem that was fixed on later models.  http://fordcmaxhybri...air/#entry60970

 

If you had a Fusion eCVT failure that required replacement, please post your car's build date.and mileage at failure

 

Since the CMAX has the same transmission I have started the same topic here

http://fordcmaxhybri...at-have-failed/

Post there if you have a CMAX

 

 

Model              Year    Build Date   1st Problem   Replaced    Notes                                             Member

Fusion Hybrid  2014                                                 12K                                                              scn101

Fusion Hybrid  2014                                                 14K                                                              Chris Campbell

Fusion Hybrid  2013                                                55.7K                                                            ROB281

Fusion Hybrid  2013                                                60.5K                                                            mje715

Fusion Hybrid  2013                                                 71K                                                              gadgetguy

Fusion Hybrid  2013                                                 34K                                                              gkinla

Fusion Hybrid  2013                                                  22K                                                             MTGilby

Fusion Hybrid  2013    11/2012                                 40K                                                             cincidaddi

Fusion Hybrid  2013                                                  50K                                                             GrayStrider

Fusion Hybrid  2013                                                  ??K      loud whine                                      halfelite

Fusion Hybrid  2015    10/2014             29K             30K      loud engine noise                           Mrfixit141414

Fusion Hybrid  2013    11/2012                                 40K                                                             cincidaddi

Fusion Hybrid  2013                                                  75K                                                             g82martin

C-Max Hybrid  2013      9/2012             97K             98K       82% Hwy, noises                            ptjones

C-Max Hybrid  2013   10/8/2012                            63.5K      bearing noises, mostly highway      HannahWCU

C-Max Hybrid  2013    10/18/12          39.6K                         bearing noises, not replaced yet     HotPotato

C-Max Energi  2013   11/06/2012                            54K                                                               found on CARFAX

C-Max Energi  2013   11/07/2012                           70.5K      bearing noises,mostly highway      mitrals

C-Max Energi  2013     3/2013                                 44K       mostly highway                               Sparky

C-Max Hybrid  2013                             43K              50K                                                              PalmettoMax

C-Max Hybrid  2013                                                 82K        85% interstate                                bigalpha

C-Max Hybrid  2013     8/20/2012                            32K        grinding noises                               Bill-N

C-Max Energi  2013       3/2013                               95.1K                                                            slbenz

C-Max Energi  2013     5/24/2013                            27K                                                               GSMacLean

C-Max Energi  2013                                                 159K                                                             Middleofnowhere

C-Max Energi  2013                             23.2K            ??K                                                              ITFlyer

Edited by Automate, 02 January 2017 - 07:22 PM.

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#2 OFFLINE   lolder

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Posted 27 July 2015 - 02:08 PM

Well this is interesting information ! Let's hope there is a forever valid TSB that fixes it for free.


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Posted 27 July 2015 - 03:51 PM

The below is TSB 14-0214 for transmission on 2013-2014 model years, but does not list specific build dates.

 

http://fordfusionhyb...s-tsbs/?p=89122


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Posted 27 July 2015 - 09:28 PM

We may need to PM some of the members who've had failures who don't frequent the site often as they may not see this thread otherwise. I think ROB281 & GrayStrider both had failures IIRC. Who else?

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Posted 27 July 2015 - 11:06 PM

We can make this into a Poll, with questions about model year, miles, etc. Want to?
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Posted 28 July 2015 - 01:12 PM

Already Posted on CMAX Hybrid Site, but here's mine 9/2012, 98Kmi. ;)

 

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Posted 28 July 2015 - 11:19 PM

Was yours a catastrophic failure, or did you just notice the symptoms before the tranny crapped out?



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Posted 29 July 2015 - 03:23 PM

Was yours a catastrophic failure, or did you just notice the symptoms before the tranny crapped out?

I went 1100 miles before I decided the noise was getting to loud and wasn't sure how much farther I could go.  I have not heard of a catastrophic  failure, I think it just gets worse with time. IMO :)

 

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Posted 15 June 2016 - 10:12 PM

I've updated the 1st post with more eCVT failures and a long term test story was posted in the CMax Hybird forum http://fordcmaxhybri...ission-failure/



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Posted 15 June 2016 - 10:39 PM

It's clear Ford really fouled up in trying to "improve" the Japanese built Aisin transmissions of the 2004-2012 hybrids. They have had very few problems particularly the 2010-12 Fusions. These Ford built transmissions should have lasted the life of the cars. There is little to wear in them. Clearly the engineering or assembly is faulty. Too bad.



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Posted 16 June 2016 - 08:25 AM

From what I heard it was a bearing problem which has been fixed on newer models. :)

 

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Posted 07 October 2016 - 06:21 AM

Just got my 2015 FFH back from Ford with New Transmission (covered by warranty).  Build date on the car was 10/2014, noticed steadily loader engine noise/whine at 29k and brought it in  at 30k.  Per the repair sheet, TSB 16-0105 was performed and after tearing it down found bearings were pitted and case [dampener] damaged.  



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Posted 07 October 2016 - 10:15 AM

If you look at the Aisin and Ford Transmissions, they look very similar in architecture, so much so that it's unlikely different bearings were used. Bearings are ho-hum parts. How can you screw that up so badly? It appears that Ford is not going to stand behind those that fail out of warranty. Disgraceful!



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Posted 07 October 2016 - 10:37 AM

If you look at the Aisin and Ford Transmissions, they look very similar in architecture, so much so that it's unlikely different bearings were used. Bearings are ho-hum parts. How can you screw that up so badly? It appears that Ford is not going to stand behind those that fail out of warranty. Disgraceful!

FORD does offer to extend warranties up to around 130+K miles which I did to make sure I was covered. :)

 

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Posted 07 October 2016 - 01:05 PM

Well that's good to hear. I wonder if they will volunteer that extension to owners or will they have to dig for it?



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Posted 07 October 2016 - 02:23 PM

Hybrid Warranty is 8yr/100k miles minimum and 150k miles in a few states.  Mine failed at 97k miles and gave advanced notice watching TFT which started  going up about 5-10k miles ahead of time. Then it started to make noise gradually getting loader over the next 3k miles and I was on a trip, didn't want it to fail out in the middle of no where so I got it fixed at Rich FORD in Albuquerque, NM.  I extended my Warranty before trip so I didn't have to worry about it. :) Hopefully members read this and never allow their cars to get out of warranty.

 

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Posted 07 October 2016 - 05:39 PM

So I gather you paid for an extended warranty?



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Posted 07 October 2016 - 09:31 PM

Pretty sure that's what he meant.

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Posted 07 October 2016 - 09:41 PM

Under what part of the standard warranty is the transmission covered?


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Posted 08 October 2016 - 08:15 AM

mwr  "Under what part of the standard warranty is the transmission covered?"

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The Hybrid Warranty, Post#16 :)

 

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Edited by ptjones, 08 October 2016 - 08:22 AM.

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