Info on transmissions (eCVT) that have failed

[mwr]

Thanks. Car-part.com seems like a great resource.

[klcour]

Hi guys,

In my FF 2017 HEV i have similar noises but they are also present on park. When vehicle is running on EV mode only, everything is ok, noises start when petrol engine is running, no matter on what gear. Does someone have similar issue?

[Jamesc4772]

On 6/16/2016 at 8:25 AM, ptjones said:

From what I heard it was a bearing problem which has been fixed on newer models. ?

 

Paul

 

On 6/16/2016 at 8:25 AM, ptjones said:

From what I heard it was a bearing problem which has been fixed on newer models. ?

 

Paul

Nope!!! My 2017 Fusion Energi Titanium has bearing noise at 113,000 miles!!! Pissed that Ford has done this. Hard to be a ford guy now

[Jamesc4772]

My 2017 Ford Fusion Energi Titanium has started to make the bearing noise on regen at 110,000 miles. I live in Western Kentucky and so finding anyone around here that knows anything about hybrids isn’t an option. Has Ford also included my year model as one they will fox????

[Jamesc4772]

On 3/8/2018 at 4:19 PM, Texasota said:

 

This is indeed bad luck for veffremov. Sorry that you had this happen to your transmission at 5000 miles after the warranty.

 

According to Wikipedia Ford sold 37,270 FFHs in 2013 and 35,405 FFHs in 2014. For sake of argument lets assume the Wikipedia numbers are "ball park" accurate. That means there are 72,675 FFHs that were sold that possibly have the issue causing the transmission failure. Only Ford knows what the failure rate is on these transmissions but it does not even show up as a blip in Consumer Reports reliability data. It is probably reasonable to assume that the failure rate is a low single digit percentage. Of that small percentage it is probably a tiny fraction of them that have not been repaired under the 8/100,000 hybrid component warranty. Veffremov may be the first one reported on this forum (I don't recall others). From everything I have seen Ford has been very good about replacing these transmission when they fail under the warranty period. I suspect PT and others would agree.

 

Among your dozens of emotional and repetitious posts regarding this subject you have stated over and over that Ford should issue a recall. I assume your argument is that Ford should recall all of those 72,675 FFHs and replace the transmissions free of charge because a minuscule fraction of them might fail after the 8/100,000 hybrid component warranty. Is that your "case"? Really? If that is your "case", then in my opinion it is an absurdly ridiculous demand/expectation. No car company or other manufacturer in their right mind would do such a thing. At lease not ones that want to remain financially viable. If it was a safety issue that puts peoples lives at risk such (such as the Takata air bags), then you would clearly have a "case" for a recall. But this is clearly not a safety issue and you are lost out in the weeds.

 

Ford provided a "good will" warranty extension and reimbursement (for costs previously paid outside of warranty) regarding the Ford Focus transmission problem. Perhaps they might do something like that for the 2013/2014 FFHs but I would be surprised given that Ford's warranty of 100,000 miles is already very impressive. It was a factor in my decision to purchase my 2015 FFH. Cars are getting more reliable but transmission failures still happen. Chrysler has had some very bad history with their minivan transmissions. Veffremov will have to shell out $5100 and that is painful but it appears to be on the low end of the average cost ($4000-$8000 is a typical range for new transmissions).

 

For some reason this subject has caused a deeply emotional and bordering on irrational reaction in you which is tough understand given that you don't even own one of these cars. You have clearly expressed your opinion regarding this issue dozens and dozens of times. Maybe consider giving it a rest? Or at a minimum consider simply providing a link to any one of your previous posts when you feel the need?

You say all of this but THEY STILL HAVENT FIXED THE PROBLEM!!! They wouldn’t do a damn thing if it wasn’t really that big of a problem to begin with. Swept under the rug. I have a 2017 Fusion a Energi that’s pretty much a brick!! F ford. Not a ford guy anymore. They had years to fix this. Toyota would have . Done. Just done with Ford

[billford]

On 12/30/2021 at 1:41 PM, Jamesc4772 said:

My 2017 Ford Fusion Energi Titanium has started to make the bearing noise on regen at 110,000 miles. I live in Western Kentucky and so finding anyone around here that knows anything about hybrids isn’t an option. Has Ford also included my year model as one they will fox????

 

Have you had it checked to see where the noise is coming from? Bearing noises usually happen as the car is moving, not just on regen. 

[Jamesc4772]

2 hours ago, billford said:

 

Have you had it checked to see where the noise is coming from? Bearing noises usually happen as the car is moving, not just on regen. 

It’s only on when it’s in regen. Not when I’m accelerating. As soon as I let off the gas. Rubbing sound

[billford]

19 hours ago, Jamesc4772 said:

It’s only on when it’s in regen. Not when I’m accelerating. As soon as I let off the gas. Rubbing sound

 

Check the trans fluid level.

Take a fluid sample from the trans, should be bright red, clear, no metallic glitter. 

[Chris978]

2017 ffh ecvt bearing failure at 130k after hf35 ecvt was replace at 74k. Failed on 4.1.2022 replace on 5.1.2020. Pic below are the goodies I found in the belly pan