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#1 OFFLINE   mwr

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Posted 05 April 2015 - 06:59 PM

The 6-Way Power Passenger Seat is supposed to provide these adjustments: fore/aft, up/down, recline. The problem is that the up/down adjustment also moves the seat forward and backward, and not just a small amount. Raising the seat also moves it very much forward.

Why would it do that when it already has a forward and backward adjustment? More than one passenger has complained that the seat was moving forward as they tried to raise it.


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#2 OFFLINE   corncobs

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Posted 05 April 2015 - 09:21 PM

That is most likely just a result of the mechanical design of the up/down.
Does the seat still move forward/backward the same distance in the different heights or is limited?
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#3 OFFLINE   mwr

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Posted 05 April 2015 - 09:29 PM

That is most likely just a result of the mechanical design of the up/down.
Does the seat still move forward/backward the same distance in the different heights or is limited?

I realize that what you said is likely the case. But why in the world would they design it that way?

 

I'm not clear what your question is. The seat moves forward as it moves up, and backward as it moves down.


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Posted 06 April 2015 - 07:24 AM

Every car I've had with power seats does this. Your driver's seat should do this as well. This is why I usually keep the drivers seat almost all the way down. It's the design of the mechanism for power seats.

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Posted 06 April 2015 - 09:08 AM

Every car I've had with power seats does this. Your driver's seat should do this as well. This is why I usually keep the drivers seat almost all the way down. It's the design of the mechanism for power seats.

My driver's seat does not do this.


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Posted 06 April 2015 - 10:17 AM

It's because the height adjuster isn't in the middle of the seat, it's at the back.  It's not moving the seat forward on it's tracks, it's just pivoting it forward from the back, so it seems like it's moving forward because it's pushing your legs forward.

 

My wife is quite a bit shorter then I am but we sit in almost the exact same fore/aft driving position because I sit with the seat all the way down and she sits with it all the way up.


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Posted 06 April 2015 - 10:25 AM

It's because the height adjuster isn't in the middle of the seat, it's at the back.  It's not moving the seat forward on it's tracks, it's just pivoting it forward from the back, so it seems like it's moving forward because it's pushing your legs forward.

 

My wife is quite a bit shorter then I am but we sit in almost the exact same fore/aft driving position because I sit with the seat all the way down and she sits with it all the way up.

All I know is the passenger seat moves forward a lot when you raise it. I don't think it should have been designed that way. The driver's seat doesn't do that.


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Posted 06 April 2015 - 12:44 PM

All I know is the passenger seat moves forward a lot when you raise it. I don't think it should have been designed that way. The driver's seat doesn't do that.

 

My driver's seat does.



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Posted 06 April 2015 - 09:59 PM

My driver's seat does not do this.

 do you have the 10-way power driver's seat? 

My driver's seat does.

do you have the 6-way power driver's seat?

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Posted 06 April 2015 - 10:01 PM

 do you have the 10-way power driver's seat?  do you have the 6-way power driver's seat?

10-way driver's seat.


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Posted 06 April 2015 - 10:04 PM

10-way driver's seat.


Since one of your seats is 6-way and the other is 10-way, the mechanism is different which is why the driver's seat doesn't move forward and up like the passenger seat does.

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Posted 06 April 2015 - 10:09 PM

Since one of your seats is 6-way and the other is 10-way, the mechanism is different which is why the driver's seat doesn't move forward and up like the passenger seat does.

I'm fully aware of that. My problem is wondering by Ford would design the 6-way seat that way; in my opinion it's a very poor design. "Up and down" should mean "up and down", especially when you also have a "forward and backward" separate adjustment.


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Posted 07 April 2015 - 07:22 AM

Because the structure of the 10 way and 6 way seats are the same, the 6 way is just missing the front motor.  Therefore the up and down on the 6 way is only moving the back of the seat up and down.


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Posted 07 April 2015 - 09:06 AM

Because the structure of the 10 way and 6 way seats are the same, the 6 way is just missing the front motor.  Therefore the up and down on the 6 way is only moving the back of the seat up and down.

That's definitely not the way the 6-way passenger seat works. The whole seat moves up and down, not just the back of the seat. The problem (to me) is that the seat also moves forward as it moves upward.


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Posted 07 April 2015 - 11:07 AM

Try to design a seat that uses a motor only on the rear that will go straight up smoothly.  It's all about geometry,


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Posted 07 April 2015 - 11:11 AM

Try to design a seat that uses a motor only on the rear that will go straight up smoothly.  It's all about geometry,

Who said they need to use a motor only on the rear of the seat? If that method is a poor design, they should do it another way.


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Posted 07 April 2015 - 01:09 PM

Who said they need to use a motor only on the rear of the seat? If that method is a poor design, they should do it another way.

 

I did, because they need to use the same seat frames for everything, including the 10-way.  Many, many things on your car are compromised because of features you don't have but others do.  Like why do we have a spare tire tub when we don't have a spare tire?


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Posted 04 July 2015 - 07:25 PM

To belatedly address Waldo's question, I've given up trying to figure WHY Ford does many things, but I'm personally very grateful that they left the spare wheel tub in the spare-less Fusion hybrids so that I had a place to put the spare that I now carry.


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Posted 04 July 2015 - 07:32 PM

I'm personally very grateful that they left the spare wheel tub in the spare-less Fusion hybrids so that I had a place to put the spare that I now carry.

Same here.


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Posted 04 July 2015 - 07:41 PM

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